Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

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Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by Demuth » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:39 am

Hi! Team attack from MgN-Redteam and neither correction nor hindsight afterwards.

Km: 151, Gradient: 1
John Newman (karaT) attacks
Dickson Lingana (MgN-Redteam) follows
Anghel Iordanescu (CCA STEAUA) is unable to follow
Francisco Moreno (Flanders Flyers) attacks
Karel Deman (MgN-Redteam) attacks
Tony Graeser (Flanders Flyers) attacks
Willi Wülbeck (MgN-Redteam) attacks

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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by Hunsrueck » Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:53 am

fpc is reviewing this case

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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by MgN Redteam » Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:25 pm

i made a attack with 2 riders, the other just followed... km 151. a made a few km in tempo and then i droped 1 of them. if i wrong im really sorry. I didnt win the race neither the top 5 i reach...

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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by MgN Redteam » Tue Jul 15, 2014 10:26 am

take me 100000 credits its not fair desicion, take the race profit was the fair desicion... I didnt made a delibery team attack, my rider just followed and i dropped few Km after... And take a look on my final result in that race... :x

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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by luques » Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:21 pm

MgN Redteam wrote:take me 100000 credits its not fair desicion, take the race profit was the fair desicion... I didnt made a delibery team attack, my rider just followed and i dropped few Km after... And take a look on my final result in that race... :x
The problem is in "i dropped few Km after". In the fine there are obviously different aspect to take into consideration

1) As you said, a part is of what you earned from that race. So let's count:

07. 00:00:40 Lucas Giorotti (MgN-Redteam)
08. 00:00:40 Renaldo Tozzi (MgN-Redteam)
10. 00:00:40 Dickson Lingana (MgN-Redteam)
14. 00:00:40 Karel Deman (MgN-Redteam)
28. 00:05:27 Willi Wülbeck (MgN-Redteam)

This means 28+26+22+17+3 = 96k in total, there were 8 teams. So you did at least 75k considering the 80%.

2) One part of the fine is obviously for the damage you did to the others. By doing your team attack and not stopping immediately the km before, someone other was damaged which is the reason someone opened a post here. So we took into account also this.

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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by MgN Redteam » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:50 am

luques wrote:
MgN Redteam wrote:take me 100000 credits its not fair desicion, take the race profit was the fair desicion... I didnt made a delibery team attack, my rider just followed and i dropped few Km after... And take a look on my final result in that race... :x
The problem is in "i dropped few Km after". In the fine there are obviously different aspect to take into consideration

1) As you said, a part is of what you earned from that race. So let's count:

07. 00:00:40 Lucas Giorotti (MgN-Redteam)
08. 00:00:40 Renaldo Tozzi (MgN-Redteam)
10. 00:00:40 Dickson Lingana (MgN-Redteam)
14. 00:00:40 Karel Deman (MgN-Redteam)
28. 00:05:27 Willi Wülbeck (MgN-Redteam)

This means 28+26+22+17+3 = 96k in total, there were 8 teams. So you did at least 75k considering the 80%.

2) One part of the fine is obviously for the damage you did to the others. By doing your team attack and not stopping immediately the km before, someone other was damaged which is the reason someone opened a post here. So we took into account also this.
Not fair, my gewin in that race was 34k...

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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by Eagle » Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:54 am

Yeah not fair, next time when i will ride with 700k, i will do teamattacks too, so i get my money back :)
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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by IDF » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:02 pm

You don't need 700k's teams to make dirty move dude ;)
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Re: Team attack on Dragasani - Targu Logresti, 10h

Post by RS Ostfriesland » Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:09 pm

I guess we can close this topic now.
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