Seibu / Inashiro abusing team reset?

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Seibu / Inashiro abusing team reset?

Post by Berlin Marks » Mon Nov 02, 2026 8:01 am

Maybe it’s nothing for the FairPlay thread more for the “technic” thread.

Inashiro bought the Falcor sprinter with 500k over market value and I was wondering how is such an experienced player like him overpaying so much?

Well now I know it. He bought this rider on 30. Oktober and he got relegated to div 6 on 1st of November. So it wasn’t a pain for him to spend so much money on a sprinter when you are able to reset your team and buying that rider back for market value and 500k less money.

Maybe it’s not against the rules, because there are no rules written against such a movement. But maybe we should think about how the reset system should work.

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Post by flockmastoR » Mon Nov 02, 2026 11:00 am

Berlin Marks wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 02, 2026 8:01 am
Maybe it’s nothing for the FairPlay thread more for the “technic” thread.

Inashiro bought the Falcor sprinter with 500k over market value and I was wondering how is such an experienced player like him overpaying so much?

Well now I know it. He bought this rider on 30. Oktober and he got relegated to div 6 on 1st of November. So it wasn’t a pain for him to spend so much money on a sprinter when you are able to reset your team and buying that rider back for market value and 500k less money.

Maybe it’s not against the rules, because there are no rules written against such a movement. But maybe we should think about how the reset system should work.
Well this is really another indicator why we should make resets for non-noobs way stricter and why the 20 mio start capital is way too high. Disgusting move imo
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Post by Hoefs Cycling Team » Mon Nov 02, 2026 11:47 am

I tried the same with: Oluf Høst (and other 3 riders, see below) now a 23yr 90 sprinter in the team of Belgium. But i wasnt able to buy him. It was technical not possible for me.
2026-09-01 Sale Oluf Høst $2,199,535
2026-09-01 Sale Mathias Kvist $1,741,433
2026-09-01 Sale Henrik Toft $1,211,020
2026-09-01 Sale Albin Molnár $1,810
Those riders above i wasnt able to buy after reset.
And yes those riders where in the same div market (div6)
Buying the same day and days after was not possible for me.
So why was Seibu able to do this and i wasnt able to do?

(I still regret my action, thats why i now react to help the game: this is not against Seibu or a future team trying this)

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Post by Berlin Marks » Mon Nov 02, 2026 12:33 pm

Hoefs Cycling Team wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 02, 2026 11:47 am
I tried the same with: Oluf Høst (and other 3 riders, see below) now a 23yr 90 sprinter in the team of Belgium. But i wasnt able to buy him. It was technical not possible for me.
2026-09-01 Sale Oluf Høst $2,199,535
2026-09-01 Sale Mathias Kvist $1,741,433
2026-09-01 Sale Henrik Toft $1,211,020
2026-09-01 Sale Albin Molnár $1,810
Those riders above i wasnt able to buy after reset.
And yes those riders where in the same div market (div6)
Buying the same day and days after was not possible for me.
So why was Seibu able to do this and i wasnt able to do?

(I still regret my action, thats why i now react to help the game: this is not against Seibu or a future team trying this)
Did you sell those riders manually before you did the reset oder did you just reset and they got sold automatically?

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Post by Hoefs Cycling Team » Mon Nov 02, 2026 1:13 pm

Good question: So far i can remember i sold them manually.

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Post by drei.zehn » Tue Nov 03, 2026 7:13 am

Hoefs Cycling Team wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 02, 2026 1:13 pm
Good question: So far i can remember i sold them manually.
If I remember right, you have to sell everyone before you can do a reset

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Post by Falcor CC » Tue Nov 03, 2026 5:50 pm

I think this belongs in the technic thread indeed. Seibu didn't break a single rule, not even an unwritten one.
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Post by Quick » Tue Nov 03, 2026 10:05 pm

Falcor CC wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 03, 2026 5:50 pm
I think this belongs in the technic thread indeed. Seibu didn't break a single rule, not even an unwritten one.
Did he do what's best for his team? Because I see he massively overpaid for a rider I (hypothetically)really wanted and then had to do an reset, because that fee was ridicolous.
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Post by flockmastoR » Tue Nov 03, 2026 11:43 pm

Falcor CC wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 03, 2026 5:50 pm
I think this belongs in the technic thread indeed. Seibu didn't break a single rule, not even an unwritten one.
I am pretty sure he gained an unfair advantage by the fact he planned to go down and reset.

This is not Fairplay in a general understanding. I wouldnt rule out by default that it is not against any written rule but that's up for the FPC to judge
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Post by Obk » Wed Nov 04, 2026 8:43 am

We discuss it and tell you!

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Post by Falcor CC » Thu Nov 05, 2026 12:07 pm

Quick wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 03, 2026 10:05 pm
Falcor CC wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 03, 2026 5:50 pm
I think this belongs in the technic thread indeed. Seibu didn't break a single rule, not even an unwritten one.
Did he do what's best for his team? Because I see he massively overpaid for a rider I (hypothetically)really wanted and then had to do an reset, because that fee was ridicolous.
I think it was quite smart from him to plan it like that. Was actually planning on doing something similar a couple months ago where I overpaid for a classic with that intention, but didn't commit to a reset in the end.
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Post by Nomorelulz » Thu Nov 05, 2026 1:02 pm

I saw it already when Hoefs did it in summer this year. It definitely is smart, but it kinda manipulates the market for the div 1-5 teams too as you can overpay and have no disadvantage in doing it. In no way this should be a fine for seibu, cause it is not forbidden. But I think we should find a solution for this, else it will further increase the difficulty of the youth market in div 1-5, especially for newer teams with less money.

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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 05, 2026 6:11 pm

Hey, novel idea, how about we make resets and starting capital 15 millions?
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Post by Berlin Marks » Thu Nov 05, 2026 8:29 pm

Robyklebt wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 05, 2026 6:11 pm
Hey, novel idea, how about we make resets and starting capital 15 millions?
Sounds like an idea

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Post by NBeullens » Thu Nov 05, 2026 9:05 pm

Robyklebt wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 05, 2026 6:11 pm
Hey, novel idea, how about we make resets and starting capital 15 millions?
Isn't that just handicapping new teams even more. They already get absolutely beaten to death in big races with their 70-78 classics that is auto generated and their 86 sprint guy. With 15mil you make it even harder to start.

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Post by DonOh » Thu Nov 05, 2026 10:15 pm

Robyklebt wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 05, 2026 6:11 pm
Hey, novel idea, how about we make resets and starting capital 15 millions?
No, 20 MIL capital start is way better for the beginners.
Here the problem isn't the capital start..
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Post by Berlin Marks » Fri Nov 06, 2026 1:10 am

DonOh wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 05, 2026 10:15 pm
Robyklebt wrote: ↑
Thu Nov 05, 2026 6:11 pm
Hey, novel idea, how about we make resets and starting capital 15 millions?
No, 20 MIL capital start is way better for the beginners.
Here the problem isn't the capital start..
You can give beginners 20 mio and resetter (maybe with >100 races) 15mio f.e.

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