28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

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28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:47 pm

Chat from the end of yesterday, Beullens unhappy about the sprint, offline the whole stage, comes on shortly before the finish today. That bolded, then the insult to Narren, then what I said that set him off, then his insult to me.
Since he is clearly intent on leaving and burning the house down on the way, best way to deal with somebody like that is a ban IMO. (Temporary ok too)
Tukhtahuaev(15:38): Yes, I am
Beullenscycling(15:38): If you dont play fines cant hurt you
Big Donkey(15:38): Hihi, haha, hoho.
Big Donkey(15:38): Is Tukh talking about Ranbir?
Beullenscycling(15:38): Oh no as if i care
Big Donkey(15:37): Fairplay thread incoming...
Tukhtahuaev(15:37): There's a good reason pretty much everyone here dislikes a few people
Big Donkey(15:36): The need to "trick" others, instead of straight wins.
FSG Sattelpuper(15:35): GW Narren
Beullenscycling(15:35): BD shut up about expectations. You being a dickhead is also expected
NoMoreLulz(15:35): told you so! nah its okay, you did the best for your team that way. unlike other teams
Narrenparty(15:35): Thanks FSG for pulling
Big Donkey(15:35): It's the obsession with not having the guy on your wheel winning that made Vogel win it the complicated way.
Narrenparty(15:35): is there a rule that a team needs to do a train? I don't understand why you're getting upset just because it's not what you expected.
Falcor(15:35): Sorry Lulz should've launched you at 200 :(
Beullenscycling(15:35): Natonga started sprint with 903 energy btw
Tukhtahuaev(15:34): I hope you lose every single race you ever do
Tukhtahuaev(15:34): Also no gw
L RSV(15:34): GW Narren!
Beullenscycling(15:34): Me too, and add some other guys in this game and you know why i will (pretty much) quit. Except for local races to me or my riders
Falcor(15:34): Narren is bad but FSG just completely gifting is very weird, not riding for his own good even
Tukhtahuaev(15:34): Don't ever expect me to coperate with you again
Tukhtahuaev(15:33): Dokker should have gone from 200
Big Donkey(15:33): Go unknown sprinter!!!! After all it was mostly Tukh at the end...
NoMoreLulz(15:33): Dokker could have gone earlier! :D
Beullenscycling(15:33): For fucks sake
Tukhtahuaev(15:33): I am absolutely done with Sattel and narren
Big Donkey(15:33): What does Ffs mean?
Big Donkey(15:32): Frizzante should have gone at 250 or so, for Kebede!
Tukhtahuaev(15:32): What a horrible field this is
Tukhtahuaev(15:32): Ffs
Big Donkey(15:31): Kebede not winning is a bug
Big Donkey(15:31): The offline coming on was expected really, the ass-covering by Narren is cheap, Linneweber not following Kurz from the start is dumb.
Beullenscycling(15:31): and he is in narnia
Beullenscycling(15:31): 1 helper called Lisati
Narrenparty(15:30): only 2s behind tuks sprinter at the last sieb and you will tell me he had no helpers?
Falcor(15:30): FSG gifting Narren is just as bad
Beullenscycling(15:30): i just came here cause i'm bored and wanted to see the result
Big Donkey(15:30): You never watched Ranbir ride behind cute Donkeys? Was very disgusting...
Falcor(15:29): He hadn't been online today, so he only had Lisati as helper who was dropped halfway through the stage
Beullenscycling(15:29): aka yesterdays sprint train
Tukhtahuaev(15:29): This whole sprint
Beullenscycling(15:29): And Lisati had Bjorn as helper
Big Donkey(15:29): What exactly?
Beullenscycling(15:29): he had Lisati as helper
Big Donkey(15:29): Most disgusting?
Falcor(15:29): FSG gifting Narren now?
Beullenscycling(15:29): no
Narrenparty(15:29): Falcor(15:29): Natonga no helper settings though - he had helper settings
Tukhtahuaev(15:29): This is the most disgusting thing I have ever seen in this game
Beullenscycling(15:29): i lost to both tuk and VB for your wheel
Falcor(15:29): Natonga no helper settings though
Beullenscycling(15:29): are you stupid
Beullenscycling(15:28): wtf mate
Beullenscycling(15:28): Narrenparty(15:27): yes wunder too. whole stage offline with the best sprinter and then sprinting // are you kidding me or is this about FSG?
Narrenparty(15:28): because i know Beullen is in my wheele
Tukhtahuaev(15:28): Seriously, Narren
Tukhtahuaev(15:28): Wow
Beullenscycling(15:28): haha surprise surprise
Big Donkey(15:28): Nebyla the unknown should go on Kotibaruly, the known's wheel!
Falcor(15:28): Why no train tho Narren?
Narrenparty(15:27): yes wunder too. whole stage offline with the best sprinter and then sprinting
Falcor(15:26): Can live with the guys in my wheel winning, let's go :p
Beullenscycling(15:26): Dokker vs Saarma
Tukhtahuaev(15:26): Go Dokker
Tukhtahuaev(15:26): Why would anyone ever want to cooperate again?
Beullenscycling(15:25): what will i not miss this
Tukhtahuaev(15:25): I'm impressed
Beullenscycling(15:25): haha great fucking shithousery
Big Donkey(15:19): I was walking around looking for food.... no mintact, when I came back was over.
Vikings Berlin(15:19): yes
Beullenscycling(15:19): if i don't come online the next 2 races i get kicked right?
Vikings Berlin(15:19): thought Lula will go
Big Donkey(15:19): But with fit Taiwia who looked to have form in downhill no chance either, so why not here
Tukhtahuaev(15:18): 146 I was really surprised that no one tried
Big Donkey(15:18): Should have gone 146, but missed it.
Big Donkey(15:18): Ha, we got away, one second!
Beullenscycling(15:15): but no sprint train anymore
Beullenscycling(15:15): might as well try, now that i'm here
L RSV(14:57): sry
Vikings Berlin(14:57): you jinxed it
Vikings Berlin(14:57): oh crosswind again
L RSV(14:57): Tailwind 5 :D
Vikings Berlin(14:55): now he's angry
Vikings Berlin(14:55): ok ok
Tukhtahuaev(14:55): I still need to control for gc chances
Vikings Berlin(14:55): just step back :p
Tukhtahuaev(14:54): Won't catch that group on my own
Big Donkey(14:53): Taiaroa wants the GC!
FSG Sattelpuper(14:34): narren, tuk, some help?
Vikings Berlin(14:23): me *
Vikings Berlin(14:23): hey Dynamo I hope you and your brother are okay. I know we would have a "family war" if my brother would ran into the forum and tried to get e banned instead of him. I would be pissed af.
L RSV(14:14): thanks
Vikings Berlin(14:12): I know I know, but from my side you don't have to sprint
L RSV(14:12): Jari is^^
Vikings Berlin(14:08): @RSV ich hab kein Interesse an Bergpunkte
Allrad(14:05): Do you wait?
Allrad(14:05): Dortmund you wait?
Tukhtahuaev(14:04): Here now
Romoc Riders(14:01): hello
Tukhtahuaev / Bugatti(14:00): moin, Tuk via Bug for a few min
Vikings Berlin(13:58): hello!
Vikings Berlin(13:58): now sattelpuper wanna ride for a sprint? :P
Big Donkey(13:56): Hi
L RSV(13:55): Hi!
Narrenparty(13:23): hi, i'm not against a sprint
Tukhtahuaev(13:23): Happy to help if others are in too
FSG Sattelpuper(12:23): Who will go for a MS? I will ride, if we have at least 3 or 4 teams.
Falcor(12:22): Good afternoon all!
Falcor(12:22): No interest here
FSG Sattelpuper(12:21): Moin
NoMoreLulz(12:19): Does everyone want a mass sprint is the question. Beullen seems to be out, waht about Falcor, Narren etc. Any commitments=s?
Tukhtahuaev(08:17): It should be an MS, but I don't expect any train to be as fit as yesterday
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Romoc Riders(19:24): tomorrow can be easily a MS if we consider the amount of flat power here
Beullenscycling(16:05): I don't ride the rest of this tour
Tukhtahuaev(15:39): No trains tomorrow I guess
Falcor(15:37): It definitely worked, Kozo started the sprint with the same energy as Dokker with +8 flat
Narrenparty(15:37): Beullen it was the only way to get a chance today, weaken you as much as possible. Thats what i was trying to do
Romoc Riders(15:37): good train Narren
FSG Sattelpuper(15:37): thx
Falcor(15:36): Gw FSG
Tukhtahuaev(15:36): Tomorrow will be interesting to say the least
Narrenparty(15:36): was risky from 200m, but Linneweber way to strong
Romoc Riders(15:35): same old story
Tukhtahuaev(15:35): I'm disgusted
Beullenscycling(15:34): I'm gone
Beullenscycling(15:34): Fuck my life
Beullenscycling(15:33): Pffff
Beullenscycling(15:33): Sprint on the cord
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by NBeullens » Tue Oct 28, 2025 5:07 pm

Are you crying for something that small. Or can't you stand the fact someone attacks you instead of you being able to harass them?

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 28, 2025 7:44 pm

I'm not crying, I'm reporting insults. As for your 'interesting' question, the logic is rather doubtful, to put it nicely. How does you attacking me take away my ability to harass you? Spoiler: (in small white font, so if you want to think a bit about it yourself, I'm not taking that chance away from you) It doesn't.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by schappy » Tue Oct 28, 2025 8:05 pm

2025-10-28 Beullenscycling Big Donkey -3 Dickhead, fuckface, cocksmoking mother fucking asshole, dirty twat, waste of semen, I hope you die!
Thats very hard, maybe we Need a fast reaction here. Thats really to much Not to react instantly.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by NBeullens » Tue Oct 28, 2025 9:38 pm

It was only the lyrics of a song from my favorite band. It was a cultural exchange.

https://youtu.be/mGo1b7ReBmU?si=kJM0CQnj4UbSsmi4


Btw check out the entire album. Very good, one of their more experimental albums with more genres and styles than that they are normally known for. Love Nimrod

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Tukhtahuaev » Tue Oct 28, 2025 10:52 pm

FPC is investigating the case (Also the fairplay comment in case that isn't clear)

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Wed Oct 29, 2025 11:41 am

FPC decision: 500k fine + 7 day ban for Beullenscycling

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by NBeullens » Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:45 pm

WTF is this, since when is the FPC fast, i wanted to ride the NC's :cry: . Well i guess this is the last message that i send in this game

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by drei.zehn » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:00 pm

NBeullens wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:45 pm
WTF is this, since when is the FPC fast, i wanted to ride the NC's :cry: . Well i guess this is the last message that i send in this game
You told someone to die. Thats why…

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by scorpsche » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:01 pm

Is 1st of April today? There was not even an insult lmao
FPC a complete joke as usual
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Hansa » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:09 pm

scorpsche wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:01 pm
Is 1st of April today? There was not even an insult lmao
FPC a complete joke as usual
Are you sure?
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by scorpsche » Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:52 pm

sry the fp comment wasn't listed here. from the messages here it was not visible
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Hansa » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:00 pm

scorpsche wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 1:52 pm
sry the fp comment wasn't listed here. from the messages here it was not visible
It was listed schappy wrote that in the 4th message in this thread.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by NBeullens » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:07 pm

Read why Billie joe armstrong wrote the track. And there was no place for the 'hey' after the hope you die. And i know other players who also said another player should have died or not been born but they dont get a ban. And i had 1 case before and the person i think about had more. So make it make sense. :?

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:25 pm

NBeullens wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 12:45 pm
WTF is this, since when is the FPC fast, i wanted to ride the NC's :cry: . Well i guess this is the last message that i send in this game
That was our goal. So that, even though you plan to leave the game, the penalty bothers you.

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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:43 pm

NBeullens wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:07 pm
Read why Billie joe armstrong wrote the track. And there was no place for the 'hey' after the hope you die. And i know other players who also said another player should have died or not been born but they dont get a ban. And i had 1 case before and the person i think about had more. So make it make sense. :?
Sorry but this is ridiculous. The Fairplay comment is not to be tolerated. Downplaying it as quoting lyrics is laughable. Making that vote as a reaction to the thread is even worse. A cool down phase will hopefully help you seeing it clearer.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Hansa » Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:48 pm

NBeullens wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:07 pm
Read why Billie joe armstrong wrote the track. And there was no place for the 'hey' after the hope you die. And i know other players who also said another player should have died or not been born but they dont get a ban. And i had 1 case before and the person i think about had more. So make it make sense. :?
Sorry but this case is far over the line wishing someone to die is not acceptable. In my opinion its the hardest case since Team Toto got a temporary ban.

I hope you come back after your ban even so you already said you want to take a break i hope after a short break you come back.

I actually didnt remember you this aggressive maybe you should try out another time to ride if the afternoon bothers you to much.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Robyklebt » Wed Oct 29, 2025 3:04 pm

Somehow seems a bit harsh. The 500k plus the temporary ban? Can the FPC tell us the thinking behind it, or does that stay internal?

Personally I think the ban is justified not because of the insults, but because of the strong general "I leave, I don't give a shit about anything anymore, you can't hurt me with fines, I'll do whatever I want now" vibe Beullens has been giving for the last days. Readable in the chat above too. That's why IMO the slight first insult reported here IMO would have been enough to consider a temporary ban. Insult plus implication that he sees no reason to hold back in his revenge vs the game (not sure why actually)

The insults themselves, at first was positively surprised at some creativity in the fairplay comment, but well, it's just a copy&paste job, I'm unimpressed. Also I think I'm immortal, so no dying. Even if at 250 maybe life won't be that much fun anymore, but well, let's see how it goes until then. The fine AND the ban seems a bit much still though, fine for insults ok, ban for the "burn down the house"-danger ok. A "one click and your banned" and let him ride Okinawa until he misbehaves would have to be fine too. IMO here the implied threat to continue going on a rampage is the bigger problem than the insults.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by NBeullens » Wed Oct 29, 2025 3:21 pm

Hansa wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:48 pm
NBeullens wrote:
Wed Oct 29, 2025 2:07 pm
Read why Billie joe armstrong wrote the track. And there was no place for the 'hey' after the hope you die. And i know other players who also said another player should have died or not been born but they dont get a ban. And i had 1 case before and the person i think about had more. So make it make sense. :?
Sorry but this case is far over the line wishing someone to die is not acceptable. In my opinion its the hardest case since Team Toto got a temporary ban.

I hope you come back after your ban even so you already said you want to take a break i hope after a short break you come back.

I actually didnt remember you this aggressive maybe you should try out another time to ride if the afternoon bothers you to much.
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by Hoefs Cycling Team » Wed Oct 29, 2025 8:34 pm

But I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo
What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by scorpsche » Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:07 am

Well still I feel it's imbalanced. One person says something inappropriate one time, but others bully & harass certain players over months and years and are not fined at all. Just a thought...
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by team fl » Thu Oct 30, 2025 8:46 am

scorpsche wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2025 2:07 am
Well still I feel it's imbalanced. One person says something inappropriate one time, but others bully & harass certain players over months and years and are not fined at all. Just a thought...
I think the temporary ban is appropriate. The penalty, at least the amount, not so much.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter...
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Re: 28.10.25, Tour of Okinawa 14h:Beullens insulting

Post by scorpsche » Thu Oct 30, 2025 5:52 pm

The problem for me is not the ban & fine in this situation but that more toxic guys are getting away with everything. I don't want to blame the people in the FPC but it's a problem of community management aka complete failure.
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