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Hi Moscow, where did you find the maps for your profiles? I couldn't find any on the official website.

very strange last night I could see the maps of some of the stages on the official website

http://www.lavuelta.com/13/es/recorrido/vuelta.html

but today I can not click, it opens the link.

I believe that they are working on the site, uploading the data above.

I designed these vuelta stages, they can be changed.

I still can't find more information on the stages than just the not so detailed profile. Could you find anything else?

Alkworld wrote:I still can't find more information on the stages than just the not so detailed profile. Could you find anything else?

the same

I am in holiday from 15.08- 03-09, I hope we can get the August calendar before this time.

Can I go on with the Vuelta ?
Who is designing or want to design ?

mintact km 125

mintact km 150

mintact km 136


mintact km 137

mintact km 115

mintact 116

mintact km 179

mintact km 102

mintact 164

mintact km 155 (maybe too late?)

I still don't understand where you get the maps from Every time I check http://www.lavuelta.com/13/en/recorrido/index.html, there are only rough profiles and since recently the last few km. But there hasn't been any detailed route information. Can somebody enlighten me?

Alkworld wrote:I still don't understand where you get the maps from Every time I check http://www.lavuelta.com/13/en/recorrido/index.html, there are only rough profiles and since recently the last few km. But there hasn't been any detailed route information. Can somebody enlighten me?

Don't know where the others are watching, but there is the Libro de Ruta available, it's a bit heavy (must be downloaded) about 125MB but has all informations.

Here is the link https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzDEK1v ... 5TZFk/edit

luques wrote:

Alkworld wrote:I still don't understand where you get the maps from Every time I check http://www.lavuelta.com/13/en/recorrido/index.html, there are only rough profiles and since recently the last few km. But there hasn't been any detailed route information. Can somebody enlighten me?

Don't know where the others are watching, but there is the Libro de Ruta available, it's a bit heavy (must be downloaded) about 125MB but has all informations.

Here is the link https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzDEK1v ... 5TZFk/edit

Take the general map to have an idea of the direction the stage go. Then in the profil of the stage you are interest, progress city by city

Looks all here, feel free to check or change if you see something wrong or some mistakes

Designing this shit is wrong.

I demand either NO morning and NO afternoon Vuelta, both times showed so far in 2013 that they aren't able to put together a decent group for a GT, OR I demand the Vuelta only in the afternoon. Either or, everything else is fascist shit.

Robyklebt wrote:Designing this shit is wrong.

Why shit? Spain is a beautiful place, history, good views, good climate in August/September. La Vuelta probably has not the best route but still there are some interesting stages like et4-5

Robyklebt wrote:I demand either NO morning and NO afternoon Vuelta, both times showed so far in 2013 that they aren't able to put together a decent group for a GT, OR I demand the Vuelta only in the afternoon. Either or, everything else is fascist shit.

As i told in another post, the problem of morning and afternoon is not only about Vuelta, Giro and TdF, but in general of all tours also short.
So maybe would be good not to put always tours in the morning and in the afternoon like it is happening now, and to reply about Vuelta i just quote you... you don't know how many gems of Robyklebt there are in the forum!

Robyklebt wrote:Not everybody can get every tour, something mr Nobel Prize winner Aux doesn't understand. Sometimes the late evening won't get a tour, sometimes the morning won't get a tour (Algarve) sometimes the afternoon (Algarve again) No problem, as long as it's spread out. And if like this month there's almost always an alternative.

The important tours, will (at least I expect it) be offered for everybody at all times.

From: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2562

Scacco!

But the vuelta isn't an important tour since the afternoon didn't get it's own edition back in 1992

Yes very important topic now !
at which time should start the Vuelta.
We had In the preview 9,14, 18, 21, 23
not a bad choice for but it could be changed ..
10,15,18,21,24 could be OK too

Should I comment or do you think it's not necessary on this topic?

Robyklebt wrote:Should I comment or do you think it's not necessary on this topic?

No, THX I know your point of view

10-15-18-21-23

Ah and for stage finish, how it is ? 20-12-8 for all stages ? Nothing ?

lesossies wrote:

Robyklebt wrote:Should I comment or do you think it's not necessary on this topic?

No, THX I know your point of view

Ok, next year then

21 and 23 with no gc this year! 18-20-22-24 already got both. SO I would be for what is in the preview (9-14-18-21-23)

Or even better : 9(or 10) - 16 - 19 - 21 - 23 (if Afternoon really needs one GT)

Or another one : 10 - 18 - 21 - 23 (Skip afternoon)

So well, most important! 21-23!

Time Bonis:
10, 6, 4 s for all stages except TT an TTT
3, 2, 1 s for intermediates

Sprint Points :
25, 20, 16, 14, 12, 10, 9.....1
4, 2, 1 for intermediates

mountain points

Cat3: 3,2,1
Cat2: 5,3,1
Cat1: 10,6,4,2,1
Cat HC: 15,10,6,4,2,

OK ?



How are the points and bonis ?

gaurain rx wrote:21 and 23 with no gc this year! 18-20-22-24 already got both. SO I would be for what is in the preview (9-14-18-21-23)

Or even better : 9(or 10) - 16 - 19 - 21 - 23 (if Afternoon really needs one GT)

Or another one : 10 - 18 - 21 - 23 (Skip afternoon)

So well, most important! 21-23!

To make the choice easier for the morning Vuelta, I created a poll:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3910