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La Vuelta 2013

Post by Moscow Team Pro » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:01 pm

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Alkworld » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:42 pm

Hi Moscow, where did you find the maps for your profiles? I couldn't find any on the official website.

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Moscow Team Pro » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:59 pm

very strange last night I could see the maps of some of the stages on the official website

http://www.lavuelta.com/13/es/recorrido/vuelta.html

but today I can not click, it opens the link.

I believe that they are working on the site, uploading the data above.

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by lesossies » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:58 pm

I designed these vuelta stages, they can be changed.

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Alkworld » Mon Aug 05, 2013 7:34 am

I still can't find more information on the stages than just the not so detailed profile. Could you find anything else?

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Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Aug 05, 2013 8:35 am

Alkworld wrote:I still can't find more information on the stages than just the not so detailed profile. Could you find anything else?
the same

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by lesossies » Mon Aug 05, 2013 9:03 am

I am in holiday from 15.08- 03-09, I hope we can get the August calendar before this time.

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by lesossies » Wed Aug 07, 2013 8:49 am

Can I go on with the Vuelta ?
Who is designing or want to design ?

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Pokemon Club » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:39 am

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mintact km 125
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mintact km 150
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mintact km 136
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mintact km 137
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mintact km 115
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mintact 116
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mintact km 179
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mintact km 102
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mintact 164
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mintact km 155 (maybe too late?)
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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Alkworld » Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:32 am

I still don't understand where you get the maps from ;) Every time I check http://www.lavuelta.com/13/en/recorrido/index.html, there are only rough profiles and since recently the last few km. But there hasn't been any detailed route information. Can somebody enlighten me?

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by luques » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:06 am

Alkworld wrote:I still don't understand where you get the maps from ;) Every time I check http://www.lavuelta.com/13/en/recorrido/index.html, there are only rough profiles and since recently the last few km. But there hasn't been any detailed route information. Can somebody enlighten me?
Don't know where the others are watching, but there is the Libro de Ruta available, it's a bit heavy (must be downloaded) about 125MB but has all informations.

Here is the link https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzDEK1v ... 5TZFk/edit

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Post by Pokemon Club » Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:44 am

luques wrote:
Alkworld wrote:I still don't understand where you get the maps from ;) Every time I check http://www.lavuelta.com/13/en/recorrido/index.html, there are only rough profiles and since recently the last few km. But there hasn't been any detailed route information. Can somebody enlighten me?
Don't know where the others are watching, but there is the Libro de Ruta available, it's a bit heavy (must be downloaded) about 125MB but has all informations.

Here is the link https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzDEK1v ... 5TZFk/edit
Take the general map to have an idea of the direction the stage go. Then in the profil of the stage you are interest, progress city by city

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Pokemon Club » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:20 pm

Looks all here, feel free to check or change if you see something wrong or some mistakes

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:19 pm

Designing this shit is wrong.

I demand either NO morning and NO afternoon Vuelta, both times showed so far in 2013 that they aren't able to put together a decent group for a GT, OR I demand the Vuelta only in the afternoon. Either or, everything else is fascist shit.
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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by luques » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:43 pm

Robyklebt wrote:Designing this shit is wrong.
Why shit? Spain is a beautiful place, history, good views, good climate in August/September. La Vuelta probably has not the best route but still there are some interesting stages like et4-5 :)
Robyklebt wrote:I demand either NO morning and NO afternoon Vuelta, both times showed so far in 2013 that they aren't able to put together a decent group for a GT, OR I demand the Vuelta only in the afternoon. Either or, everything else is fascist shit.
As i told in another post, the problem of morning and afternoon is not only about Vuelta, Giro and TdF, but in general of all tours also short.
So maybe would be good not to put always tours in the morning and in the afternoon like it is happening now, and to reply about Vuelta i just quote you... you don't know how many gems of Robyklebt there are in the forum! ;)
Robyklebt wrote:Not everybody can get every tour, something mr Nobel Prize winner Aux doesn't understand. Sometimes the late evening won't get a tour, sometimes the morning won't get a tour (Algarve) sometimes the afternoon (Algarve again) No problem, as long as it's spread out. And if like this month there's almost always an alternative.

The important tours, will (at least I expect it) be offered for everybody at all times.
From: viewtopic.php?f=37&t=2562

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by NoPikouze » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:54 am

But the vuelta isn't an important tour since the afternoon didn't get it's own edition back in 1992 :mrgreen:
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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by lesossies » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:29 pm

Yes very important topic now !
at which time should start the Vuelta.
We had In the preview 9,14, 18, 21, 23
not a bad choice for but it could be changed ..
10,15,18,21,24 could be OK too

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:04 pm

Should I comment or do you think it's not necessary on this topic?
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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by lesossies » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:58 pm

Robyklebt wrote:Should I comment or do you think it's not necessary on this topic?
No, THX I know your point of view ;)

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Pokemon Club » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:16 pm

10-15-18-21-23

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Pokemon Club » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:17 pm

Ah and for stage finish, how it is ? 20-12-8 for all stages ? Nothing ?

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:44 pm

lesossies wrote:
Robyklebt wrote:Should I comment or do you think it's not necessary on this topic?
No, THX I know your point of view ;)
Ok, next year then :evil:
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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by gaurain rx » Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:26 pm

21 and 23 with no gc this year! 18-20-22-24 already got both. SO I would be for what is in the preview (9-14-18-21-23)

Or even better : 9(or 10) - 16 - 19 - 21 - 23 (if Afternoon really needs one GT)

Or another one : 10 - 18 - 21 - 23 (Skip afternoon)

So well, most important! 21-23!

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by lesossies » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:33 am

Time Bonis:
10, 6, 4 s for all stages except TT an TTT
3, 2, 1 s for intermediates

Sprint Points :
25, 20, 16, 14, 12, 10, 9.....1
4, 2, 1 for intermediates

mountain points

Cat3: 3,2,1
Cat2: 5,3,1
Cat1: 10,6,4,2,1
Cat HC: 15,10,6,4,2,

OK ?



How are the points and bonis ?

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Re: La Vuelta 2013

Post by Alkworld » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:32 am

gaurain rx wrote:21 and 23 with no gc this year! 18-20-22-24 already got both. SO I would be for what is in the preview (9-14-18-21-23)

Or even better : 9(or 10) - 16 - 19 - 21 - 23 (if Afternoon really needs one GT)

Or another one : 10 - 18 - 21 - 23 (Skip afternoon)

So well, most important! 21-23!
To make the choice easier for the morning Vuelta, I created a poll:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3910

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