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Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:37 am
by Schnuggeritos
General Info
2.759 kms in 16 days (15 stages) - 9 more than 2022, 7 less than 2021
66.410 m of elevation, 8470 more than 2022, 410 more than 2021
6 countries (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Argentina & Chile)
8x Mountain / HC
3x Hilly
2x Flat
1x TTT
1x ITT
1x Rest Day

Highlights
sustainable Tour, all vehicles (except motorcycles) are hydrogen powered. Motorcycles are powered by e-motors.
Stage 3: TTT with very bumpy gravel roads
Stage 7: gravel trial to Volcan El Altar
Stage 8 & 9: influences by Chachapoya culture. The Chachapoyas were part of the Inca Empire. Translated from quechuan to english Chachapoyas means "Warriors of the Clouds"
Stage 10: some old parts of el camino a las yungas (also known as el camino de la muerte) including La-Cumbre. Before reaching the death road the peloton heads south and returns to La Paz
Stage 11: all kinds of cobble, gravel and dirt roads for >50% of the stage
Stage 14: chance for a nice break at Termas Las Hediondas
Stage 15 start at Cristo Redentor de los Andes, Last view towards the Andes from Los Andes (City)
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Day 1: Hilly Stage from Bogota to Villavicencio
Length (km): 201
Mintact (km): 182
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Day 2: Flat Stage from Villavicencio to El Dorado
Length (km): 197
Mintact (km): 190
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Day 3: Team Time Trial from Palermo to Neiva
Length (km): 45
Mintact (km): 1
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Day 4: Mountain Stage from Pitalito to San Francisco
Length (km): 210
Mintact (km): 184
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Day 5: Mountain Stage from Tulcán to Imbabura
Length (km): 237
Mintact (km): 224
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Day 6: Mountain Stage from La Esperie to Quilotoa
Length (km): 200
Mintact (km): 164
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Day 7: Mountain Stage from Ambato to Volcan el Alta
Length (km): 148
Mintact (km): 124
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Day 8: Rest day, transfer from Riobamba (Ecuador) to Bagua (Peru)
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Day 9: Hilly Stage from Bagua to Magdalena
Length (km): 221
Mintact (km): 150
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Day 10: Individual Time Trial close to Chachapoyas - transfer by plane from Chachapoyas (Peru) to La Paz (Bolivia)
Length (km): 36
Mintact (km): 1
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Day 11: Queen stage around La Paz. Highest point at finish ~ 5000 m above sea level
Length (km): 138
Mintact (km): 124
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Day 12: Mountain Stage from Oploca to Alpahuasi
Length (km): 215
Mintact (km): 182
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Day 13: Mountain Stage from Iruya to Valle Grande
Length (km): 226
Mintact (km): 176
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Day 14: Hilly Stage around Cerro Malcante
Length (km): 210
Mintact (km): 166
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Day 15: Mountain Stage from Embalsa la Laguna to Embalsa La Laguna, 3 laps at Termas Las Hediondas
Length (km): 263
Mintact (km): 236
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Day 16: Flat Stage from Cristo Redentor de los Andes to Santiago de Chile
Length (km): 210
Mintact (km): 200
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Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 6:07 pm
by Schnuggeritos
Dear readers, the planning of the Campeonato de los Andes 2023 is completed. Above you will find all the information. If you have any questions or general concerns, please do not hesitate to contact the Schnuggeritos World Tour.

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:37 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Yey, Andes are here :) Always a season highlight just to look at the presentation :) And very early, one month before it's ridden, perfect for the calendar planner.

First look... brutal :shock: More detailed review (and criticism) later ;)

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 2:14 am
by Robyklebt
El trampolin del diablo!

Another part of my great future Andes that will never be designed used! With Gipfel using quite a bit of the same roads a few years back and now the trampolin del diablo used too, becomes more unnecessary by the year to design my Andes :D

El trampolin del diablo! Cool. Cool? It's nothing special...

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:41 am
by Chemnitz Pro Cycling Team
Too bad I can't ride this year. Looks great!

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 9:46 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Schnuggeritos, I have good news and bad news for you! Which ones first?

I start with bad news: I have not forgotten to criticize your fantastic Andes! So let's go:
66.410 m of elevation, 8470 more than 2022, 410 more than 2021
More is not always better. Andes is extreme, but extreme is enough. It doesn't have to be more extreme than extreme. Otherwise you risk a one sided race. Hope it's not the case here, and it depends on the peloton at least as much as on the profiles, but maybe a good advice for the future that we don't always have to break the record in elevation gain.
6 countries (Colombia, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Argentina & Chile)
Again, more is not always better. In fact, here I think it should have been less. My riders dont like these long transfers between stages without a restday. And my sponsors also dont like it. They will have to pay for the private jet necessary to arrive at the start of stages 10, 11 and 14 on time.
Stage 11: all kinds of cobble, gravel and dirt roads for >50% of the stage
This comment could be for the whole tour? Personally I love it. It's something I used a lot when I designed the Andes. It makes the race harder and often a bit unpredictable. There were usually 2-4 stages WITH gravel or pavé. But now it's only 2 stages WITHOUT gravel? Is it now Campeonato de los Gravel? I mean, yes, sometimes there are these gravel climbs, almost hard to avoid them on parts of the route, but there are normal roads in the Andes, too! ;)

Now, the good news: Do you have a favorite time when you would like to ride it? Then we can try to have that for this year :)

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2023 11:49 pm
by Schnuggeritos
Thanks for your remarks.

Tbh it was never planned to be even more extreme than the previous ones. On my first sketches it was almost the same distance but the stages did not fit to the guidelines with 3 flat and 5 hilly stages. So I had to redo some stages. I hope I still found a good compromise to design the final kilometers for the different rider types / teams. I thought stages 2, 5, 6, 8, (12,) 14 & 15 are the ones with less pave sections :D

You are totally right about the amount of countries but, as you know, it's hard to decide which one is in and which one is out. There are too many places, climbs and personalities worth seeing.
Maybe your sponsors are also friends of sustainability and have an other option to travel. We, the Schnuggeritos World Tour, would be very happy to help out in this situation.

I prefer a start in the morning. 9 am suits me well, 10 am is still good. 2 pm in the afternoon would have been my 3rd choice

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:03 pm
by drei.zehn
Where are the profiles? Can’t see them anymore in the editor

Re: Campeonato de los Andes 2023

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:22 pm
by flockmastoR
drei.zehn wrote:
Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:03 pm
Where are the profiles? Can’t see them anymore in the editor
Probably some minor changes need to be done, it is shown as "draft" so you can see it in the "Race Editor" tab and not in the "Calendar Preview"