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December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:22 pm
by Robyklebt
Same rules as last year I suppose:

If there are any changes by leso, please post them here, otherwise the rules are these:

Tour limits:
10-14 days with max. 1 rest day and max. 1 day with 2 half-stages.

No extrem tour:
No extrem mountainous tour like Anden or an extrem cobbles-tour like sachsen nor en extrem flat one)

Design Time :
until 31.October.

Presentation in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3963

Here we can discuss, praise, criticize etc all the presented tours!

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:32 pm
by Pokemon Club
What about TTT ? In the first tiers of the tour like real or no particular rule ?

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:11 pm
by olmania
People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:30 pm
by Pokemon Club
olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D
Because I am affraid by my computer which make unpredictable blue screen ^^

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:16 am
by team fl
Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation! Salami tactic is stupid, at least it gives you minus points from my side :twisted:

About the tours:

- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.

- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:00 am
by Pokemon Club
team fl wrote:Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation!
You joke ? Like a good little frenchy I follow ASO's style, Prudhomme and Pescheux are agree with me !

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:54 am
by Vea Olio
olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
ehm...this is my professional secret :mrgreen:

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:01 am
by Vea Olio
team fl wrote:Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation! Salami tactic is stupid, at least it gives you minus points from my side :twisted:

About the tours:

- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.

- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.
I know, but for me Italy is the place for the best december tour of all...

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:09 am
by olmania
Vea Olio wrote:
olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
ehm...this is my professional secret :mrgreen:
Come on ! :D
(I will not use it for my presentation anyway :) )

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:47 pm
by Vea Olio
olmania wrote:
Vea Olio wrote:
olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
ehm...this is my professional secret :mrgreen:
Come on ! :D
(I will not use it for my presentation anyway :) )
i use cyclograph...and if you want, you can use it :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:12 pm
by Vea Olio
@olmania my tour is harder :mrgreen:

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:09 pm
by olmania
Vea Olio wrote:@olmania my tour is harder :mrgreen:
Not really because all your summits will be under 1meter of snow and organizer will force the bunch to stay in valleys. ;)

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:51 pm
by Vea Olio
olmania wrote:
Not really because all your summits will be under 1meter of snow and organizer will force the bunch to stay in valleys. ;)
Image
Repeat what you said, but with a rifle pointed to the head.

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:26 am
by team fl
Bah, TAKA's proposal is such an insult... hihi

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:14 pm
by Pokemon Club
Hum only 6 Winter Tour complete ? Vea forget he didn't finish his tour ? No more tour ? Alk ? Hunsrueck ? Hansa ? Luques ? FL ? Rad ? :cry:

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:38 pm
by luques
There are still 10 days!

All depends if i see the light

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:20 pm
by Vea Olio
on 26 october I show you the final part of the tour....you now can imagine the monster I have done....

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:42 am
by Hansa
Bah all these shitty Huber tours didn´t we have enough Huber tours in the real cycling calender? Also the 3 Gt´s are Huber tours more and more and i only found 3 dectours without Ultrloung Itts

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:11 am
by Pokemon Club
Hanse wrote:Bah all these shitty Huber tours didn´t we have enough Huber tours in the real cycling calender? Also the 3 Gt´s are Huber tours more and more and i only found 3 dectours without Ultrloung Itts
3 GTs are clearly not for hubers this year. Last year the same if ypu except TDF 2012.

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:19 am
by Robyklebt
Negative ape can't help it...

Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:48 pm
by Hunsrueck
Robyklebt wrote:Negative ape can't help it...

Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?
Do not know exactly what happened. Think is better now.

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:59 pm
by Vea Olio
for a problem, I'll post tomorrow or the 30 the stages...the climbs will be added in a second moment

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:48 pm
by luques
Probably better if i didn't see the light!

Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour :D !

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:01 pm
by team fl
luques wrote:Probably better if i didn't see the light!

Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour :D !


Your tour presentation says:
There are 7 days - rest day - 7 days, we like simmetry!
The rules say: 14 days max... That's one day too much. And it's symmetry, btw. ;)

Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:26 pm
by luques
team fl wrote:
luques wrote:Probably better if i didn't see the light!

Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour :D !


Your tour presentation says:
There are 7 days - rest day - 7 days, we like simmetry!
The rules say: 14 days max... That's one day too much. And it's symmetry, btw. ;)
I switched back how it was originally planned... stage 1a and 1b, 14 stages overall but in 13days + 1rest day, but the symmetry is completely broken, now depressed :cry: :( :cry:

P.S. Thanks for the correction