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Re: Robyfiles!

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:34 pm

Since in early December we will move to southern Asia, and unlike for North/Central America the vault isn't all that well filled, here 2 races. Hoping to inspire more South Asian winter races...


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First a cynic attempt by China to let us forget the protests in Hong Kong with a race in Shenzhen, just across the border. And lots of money. Money talks after all. A 38 km lap done 4 times. An intermediate before the mountain, the mountain 7 4 4 4 HC obviously, then back to the finish. After the first lap 1 sprint, after lap 2 3, after lap 3 5 sprints. Classified as hilly, but with 21 km flat after the downhill a sprint possible too. 9 riders, all get a single room in the Hotel a bit south of the start, since we don't want to make free promotion, I'll refrain from saying the name. In addition to that I actually managed to already forget it.

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A middle mountain stage in Malaysia. First 2 laps in Medan, then we go up towards the Cameron Highlands, but we stop at something called Blue Valley, even if there seem to be almost no houses but lots ricefields there. The climb is max 5. Sprinters with flat and a good team might make it to the top, last km is +1. Okay, the Donkey admits that RKL cheated. There definitely are 2 km at more than 6 right at the start, 8 8 most likely. But after that the climb seems to be rather regular and never over 5%, had 2 or 3 6 in there, but looking at the map and the km before and after pretty confident that the road in those cases is much more regular than the raw data. 100 meters at 20% followed by 200 meters downhill at 15% then up again... then up again, but slightly. No no, that's most likely a pretty regular climb. For classics, but as I said, sprinters with flat, and 2 strong classics can possibly do it. If they like the challenge. 128 km, 46 km mintact, from the start of the climb.
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Post by Robyklebt » Fri Dec 20, 2019 6:00 pm

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A hilly pavé race.

Ibarra, north Ecuador, seems to be some sort of pavé paradise. Not gravel roads, real pavé. The * mostly in cities/villages, the rest ***-***** in between. People with a better computer, not one that takes HOURS to check google street view because it's too old, might be able to design more hard pavé races there. The "non-street view" roads often probably are pavé too, tried to avoid those.
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Post by Robyklebt » Tue Feb 25, 2020 4:45 pm

Inspired by the Boucles de la Vallée heureuse the Donkey designed a Happy Valley race too, in Hong Kong. 16 laps a 10km, max 4 climb.
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And 2 races in Switzerland, the Burgdorf Cup, hilly, Visp Lausanne, flat.
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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:44 am

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Re: Robyfiles!

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Apr 20, 2020 5:30 pm

Restarting my Japanese series, but not sure where I left off, so start in the west...


Hilly, 9 riders
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Early hills, then flat, sprinters with some mountain or/and a good team should manage. 9 riders
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Post by Robyklebt » Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:36 pm

2 races in Korea, both 9 riders

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Too many climbs for sprinters most likely, even if the last hill has no siebkm, so after km 84 no more siebing. But before probably too much, but worth a try?

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Last sieb 32 km from the end, only 6 siebkm overall, but only 2 after km 100, so sprint should be possible, even if there are lots of small +/- after that too.
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Post by Robyklebt » Wed May 06, 2020 10:12 am

Continue with the far east:

North Korea:
Circuit race in and around Pyongyang. The hill has a single 6, the rest lower, but that makes it too hard for sprinters normally, even if there's 28 km left after that 6. 8 riders
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This one should be a sprint, in the northeast of North Korea. 3 6%, the last one 43 km from the end. 8 riders.
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China:

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Short hills, but too close to the end for a sprint. Along the Yalu river first, then leave the North Korean border.

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Northeast China, not far from the Amur and the Russian border. Flat, a 7 at km 47, rest nothing siebable.

Russia

Sprint, 7 riders. Very easy sprint normally.
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Hilly, along the Transiberian railway, actually the road is further from it than expected though. The M58, which Russia finally finished in 2010. +3 finish.
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Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:00 pm

2 races in the US

Duluth-Grand Rapids completely flat, the hill at the beginning has max 5. Weak sprinters might be siebed there, depending on the tempo even with problems coming back maybe. Lots of intermediate, so 9 riders so that both the escape(s) and the peloton can go full power. 30 km mintact of course

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The Montana Cycling Cup, 4 climbs, the last GPM is just +3+3. Quite steep parts at times, so siebs should be effective. 176 km, 7 riders per team, mintact at 138, bottom of the last siebable climb. 7-12-8
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Re: Robyfiles!

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:42 pm

It's back

La Flèche Jurassienne

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The classic former fantasy classic for climbers is back. The organizing committee finally found enough funds to reorganize it this year, but it won't be a yearly occurrence.

The parcours changed, it's longer than it used to be, slightly. The end though is the classic Balmberg-Weissenstein-Balmberg combination.

Changes before, Schwengimatt (if the name is correct, Rasmussen can correct me) and Tiefmatt too. Not completely sure about if it's paved though, if Rasmussen again tells me one of those climbs aren't, I'll redraw. Chastenchöpfli the same, looked ok on plotaroute, less on the swiss maps, so not sure. The Baselländer hillriding between that and Santelhöchi is the same as usual, just the other way around. (Not that I remember exactly how the route used to be)

Alternative would include the Scheltenpass as in former editions, instead of the Binzberg, to cut some km early. And then the the Schmiedenmatt between Schwengimatt (other side then) and the first Balmberg . That Schmiedenmatt even has a profile on Cyclingcols,


Another race in the Jura,
Le sprint du Jura

Together with a Rasmussen race will make a nice Triptique Jurassien!

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1 siebkm, at 105, a 7. In the last km there are 2 5, +5-4-4 0 +1 the last 5 km, so attackers certainly will have their chance too.
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Post by Rasmussen » Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:05 am

Great! Fleche Jurassienne is back.

Nice route and the names should be all correct as far as I know.

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Post by Bear » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:11 pm

Nice to have Fleche Jurassienne back. Is there still the Tour du Jura or does it come back also?

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Post by Robyklebt » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:47 am

Tour de Jura was Zauberlehrlinge, and being a Tour don't think will come back.

Real races, so in the on season no place, we cancel real races already, so.... once we have 2000 active managers probably we can offer fantasy tours for Div 7 :D
Off season the weather of course is wrong.

Fleche Jurassienne only coming back once as well.... ok, maybe in the future another year once more... 2023 or so at the earlierst. Yes yes, it's a nice race (even if actually I'm not too happy with this edition, too long) but there's many nice fantasy one day races.... so we better use new ones generally.

Like my newest ones:

Kocevjie-Rijeka
Hilly, short, 127 km last +6 at 118

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Sprint, many siebkm before km 45, after that just an 8 before the border, so km 136, still 40 km to come back
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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Aug 13, 2020 5:59 pm

3 Canadian races

Sprint race, 8 riders, no sieb km.
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Calgary Cycling Cup, middle mountain. Very short, 84 km. It's really a sprint, there is only one hill with sieb km, +4+7+6+3, km 44-47, but with only 6 riders and still lots of small downhills and slight climbs after, chances seem big it won't be a sprint.

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Another sprint, 164km, completely flat, 7 riders. Probably many mosquitos.

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Re: Robyfiles!

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:05 pm

A little tour in the Andes. For sprinters mostly.... sprinters told me they'd like to ride there too, so why not make a tour for them.

Right now this is the favorite for a parallel spot for the Campeonato de los Andes. Since one of the possibly 2 parallel tours we'll have definetly should be very sprint heavy, maybe not as heavy as this, but still. If other tours show up, might choose another one...

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Stage 1a 5 km TTT in El Alto.
1b from La Paz to El Alto, first the climb, 14 km with 3 6%, then a flat loop. Sprint at 0
Stage 2 El Alto-El Alto, another loop, finish this time at +2, Plaza de la Luna but from a different direction
Stage 3 is another GC stage (1a and 1b too...), the main GC stage climb to Lloko Lloko 3 km, but far from the goal, decisive km the one 6 30 km from the end. After it another 6 km of light climb, then undulating, here good chance for hillsprinters to drop the flat sprinters and get ahead in GC
Stage 4 goes to Peru, Copacabana - Juliaca. Siebkm in both hills (by not following the main road...) but far from the goal
Stage 5: Juliaca-Arequipa, but the first 3x km will be neutralized, so the race starts in Deustua. Surprisingly couldn't find any siebkm on that stage, but the downhill should make it challenging for the sprinters anyway, a group of strong downhillers could pose a real challenge for them.

A sprinter could win this, even the difference on stage 3 shouldn't be enourmous and could be equalized with bonifications.
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Post by kunske » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:06 pm

This Andes stages race looks great.

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Post by cataracs » Wed Oct 21, 2020 6:16 pm

Lazy Donks. The graphs should all be 6k high.

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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:11 am

Long Donkey races again!

South America:

Sprint, no siebkm I think, but a +4 1 km from the end, so a strong helper faction might be necessary.

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Mountainous race, that should be for classics or 80-70? The last climb, clearly the hardest is 13km from the first sieb km, downhill and 11 km flat, normally too hard for pure climbers to hang on.

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Asia:

Easy sprint on South Andaman Island. First km an 8, then it's max 5. Finishing circuit has a hill with 3 1 3, last 3 km 0, so the sprint should never be in doubt. Money in the finishing circuit to encourage late attackers too.

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Thailand Myanmar Friendship, from Tak to Kawkareik. 3 hills, the first one clearly the hardest, second one only 2 sieb km. Third one 9 2 9 4, might be map mistake and in reality more rhythmical, but since I'm told following geography is sad, I let it like that. Normally a classics group, but strong hill sprinters might have a chance.

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And a small tour:

3 jours de Hanoi:
Stage 2 is for classics normally, but sprinters not completely hopeless, at least hill sprinters. All the climbs have siebkm, but just a single one. Last one the 4th category is a 6.
Stage 2 obviously for sprinters, easy sprint
Stage 3 will decide the GC normally. Final climb 11 11 9, followed by a 4 km steep downhill, -9 to -12. Then -3 -2 -2 -1 0 0 to the finish line.

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Post by cataracs » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:44 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:11 am

Stage 2 is for classics normally
Stage 2 obviously for sprinters
Ha!

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Post by Robyklebt » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:54 pm

You missed the most embarrassing one...

Frienship race, aaah, need to correct that
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Post by cataracs » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:49 pm

I'm a tour specialist, I skip checking the long one day races.

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Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:25 am

Following the call by our beloved calendar assistant, I designed a race in South America.

Sprint, but a 2 km 7 6 siebable hill 30 km from the end.

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And a race I designed in December but forgot to post.... Later in the year clearly

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Post by Robyklebt » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:30 pm

2 southern Italian races

Hilly, flat end, but normally too hard for sprinters, only the last 50 are sprinter friendly and we go above 1000 meters first

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This one should be ok for sprinters, 5 laps around Catanzaro with 6 6, but then 80 km left.

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Post by Robyklebt » Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:39 pm

Weiherring Circle.

Have to admit I didn't see the Weiher, is that thing zubetoniert? But well, there is a street named Ziel right next to the Weiherring (that goes around the Weiher that isn't visible), so this race had to be designed.

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Post by Robyklebt » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:23 pm

Inspired by the great Falkenbier RKL designed a bit too.

Maine Cycling Cup, flat. 2 siebkm, the last Robbins Hill, a 6. But lots of of up and down at the end, one 5 somewhere, otherwise up to 4. So not a supereasy sprint, but not that difficult either.

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New Hampshire Cycling Cup, hilly, but looks harder than it is really. Only 4 km at 6+. 2 at Elephant head, then the 3 last km of the Cancamagus pass are 6 5 7. then close to 40 km to the goal. For hill sprinters shouldn't be the slightest problem really. Flat sprinters more difficult, but depending on the group even that might work. But normally hill sprinters.

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This on is hilly, 7 7 the last 2 km of the Sherburne Pass, steeper stuff earlier.
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Re: Robyfiles!

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:45 am

4 more US cycling Cups

Massachusetts, easy, some siebs early, but after that easily controllable for a sprint.

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Hilly, last hill turned out to be harder than it looked while designing, so in the end it's more for climbers than classics I think. 6 9 6 4 -1 the last 5 km.a
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Since in half of the state somehow plotaroute doesn't work, a short, easy thing 96, no siebkm, no intermediates, 7 riders.

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New York, sprint, but quite a few siebkm, last one a 7 at km 107. 9 riders here, so still should be ok with getting the sprint. Lots of intermediates, so escapes might try of course.
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