December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

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December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Robyklebt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:22 pm

Same rules as last year I suppose:

If there are any changes by leso, please post them here, otherwise the rules are these:

Tour limits:
10-14 days with max. 1 rest day and max. 1 day with 2 half-stages.

No extrem tour:
No extrem mountainous tour like Anden or an extrem cobbles-tour like sachsen nor en extrem flat one)

Design Time :
until 31.October.

Presentation in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3963

Here we can discuss, praise, criticize etc all the presented tours!
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:32 pm

What about TTT ? In the first tiers of the tour like real or no particular rule ?

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Post by olmania » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:11 pm

People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !

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Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:30 pm

olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D
Because I am affraid by my computer which make unpredictable blue screen ^^

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Post by team fl » Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:16 am

Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation! Salami tactic is stupid, at least it gives you minus points from my side :twisted:

About the tours:

- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.

- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.
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Post by Pokemon Club » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:00 am

team fl wrote:Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation!
You joke ? Like a good little frenchy I follow ASO's style, Prudhomme and Pescheux are agree with me !

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Post by Vea Olio » Thu Oct 03, 2013 8:54 am

olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
ehm...this is my professional secret :mrgreen:

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Post by Vea Olio » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:01 am

team fl wrote:Please dear contestants... Post your tour when it's done with full presentation! Salami tactic is stupid, at least it gives you minus points from my side :twisted:

About the tours:

- Gita Italia: Italy, really? Can't write much about the profiles as there are only three so far... But Italy? There are enough stage races in Italy during the real cycling calender, no need for a fantasy one for the december tour. But then again, if the profiles are much better than the other, which I can't tell so far.

- SLIT: Something for everybody in a nice place for December. But I miss a summary with an overall view, geographically. Anyway, in my eyes, the TT is a) too long and b) between two flat stages... Better make two shorters ones and one if it between two hard mountain stages, that would be much more interesting. My opinion. Last thing: To be continued? If there is something to add, wait with posting until your finished. Same counts for the first tour too.
I know, but for me Italy is the place for the best december tour of all...

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Post by olmania » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:09 am

Vea Olio wrote:
olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
ehm...this is my professional secret :mrgreen:
Come on ! :D
(I will not use it for my presentation anyway :) )

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Vea Olio » Thu Oct 03, 2013 1:47 pm

olmania wrote:
Vea Olio wrote:
olmania wrote:People why don't you put your full tours ?
:D

Vea Olio : how did you create this uphill details for all of your hills in Italy ? Is there a program for this ? Seems awesome !
ehm...this is my professional secret :mrgreen:
Come on ! :D
(I will not use it for my presentation anyway :) )
i use cyclograph...and if you want, you can use it :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Post by Vea Olio » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:12 pm

@olmania my tour is harder :mrgreen:

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Post by olmania » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:09 pm

Vea Olio wrote:@olmania my tour is harder :mrgreen:
Not really because all your summits will be under 1meter of snow and organizer will force the bunch to stay in valleys. ;)

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Post by Vea Olio » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:51 pm

olmania wrote:
Not really because all your summits will be under 1meter of snow and organizer will force the bunch to stay in valleys. ;)
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Repeat what you said, but with a rifle pointed to the head.

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by team fl » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:26 am

Bah, TAKA's proposal is such an insult... hihi
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:14 pm

Hum only 6 Winter Tour complete ? Vea forget he didn't finish his tour ? No more tour ? Alk ? Hunsrueck ? Hansa ? Luques ? FL ? Rad ? :cry:

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by luques » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:38 pm

There are still 10 days!

All depends if i see the light

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Post by Vea Olio » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:20 pm

on 26 october I show you the final part of the tour....you now can imagine the monster I have done....

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Hansa » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:42 am

Bah all these shitty Huber tours didn´t we have enough Huber tours in the real cycling calender? Also the 3 Gt´s are Huber tours more and more and i only found 3 dectours without Ultrloung Itts
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Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:11 am

Hanse wrote:Bah all these shitty Huber tours didn´t we have enough Huber tours in the real cycling calender? Also the 3 Gt´s are Huber tours more and more and i only found 3 dectours without Ultrloung Itts
3 GTs are clearly not for hubers this year. Last year the same if ypu except TDF 2012.

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:19 am

Negative ape can't help it...

Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?
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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Hunsrueck » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:48 pm

Robyklebt wrote:Negative ape can't help it...

Hunsrück, what's up with your heights? Stage 1, Carirubana-Carirubana, but you end up quite a bit above the start.
Or stage 9, the Ape happens to think that Maracaibo is at sea level. You seem to finish closer to 500 than to 0?
Do not know exactly what happened. Think is better now.

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by Vea Olio » Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:59 pm

for a problem, I'll post tomorrow or the 30 the stages...the climbs will be added in a second moment

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by luques » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:48 pm

Probably better if i didn't see the light!

Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour :D !

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by team fl » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:01 pm

luques wrote:Probably better if i didn't see the light!

Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour :D !


Your tour presentation says:
There are 7 days - rest day - 7 days, we like simmetry!
The rules say: 14 days max... That's one day too much. And it's symmetry, btw. ;)
I didn't mean to say it. But I meant what I said.

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Re: December Tour 2013, rules, discussions, criticisms!

Post by luques » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:26 pm

team fl wrote:
luques wrote:Probably better if i didn't see the light!

Anyway Luques Tour is coming, in the day of the mistery, of the awful, the strange... here my tour :D !


Your tour presentation says:
There are 7 days - rest day - 7 days, we like simmetry!
The rules say: 14 days max... That's one day too much. And it's symmetry, btw. ;)
I switched back how it was originally planned... stage 1a and 1b, 14 stages overall but in 13days + 1rest day, but the symmetry is completely broken, now depressed :cry: :( :cry:

P.S. Thanks for the correction

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