December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

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December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by cataracs » Sat Sep 06, 2025 2:26 pm

It's time for our yearly competition for the December Tour.

Designers submit their tours, managers vote in the forum, the winning Tour will be ridden as catgory 3 tour in December. And the runner up as a shortened January Tour, cat 2, in January.

The rules are basically like usual but without any limitation of riders:

-Length: 10-14 days: Maximum 13 days riding. (That means you can do a 13 day tour without rest day or a 14 day tour with 1 rest day)
-No extreme tour, extreme as in unbalanced towards one speciality, flat, pavé, mountains TT etc.
-1 tour per designer
-Maximum 1 day with half stages.
-Tours are posted from October 1st to October 31st.

Tour will be posted in a separate thread that I will open later. This thread here is for the rules (see above) criticism of the rules (see dictator), discussion of the proposed tours later on. Promotion of tours welcome, criticism too, the more the better.

Everyone is welcome to participate, unless we get somebody winning twice in a row there's no need to ban anyone from designing.
Robyklebt wrote: so now the rule is: If you win twice in a row you are disqualified from participating. (This rule will hopefully one day revert to the old one, but only once we have more active managers/designers)
Voting procedure:
First round voting from the 2nd to the 9th November.

The number of votes a manager has depends on the number of tours submitted:
Number of submissions/2, then rounded down. That means:
1-3 tours=1 vote
4-5 tours=2 votes
6-7 tours=3 votes
8-9 tours=4 votes.
But capped at 4 votes, even if we get more than 9 tours the number of votes per manager won't increase.

Second roud from the 10th to the 20th, Normally the first 2 teams will advance to the second round. If it's very close, more might be in.

If there is a draw in the second round, the tour that got more votes in the first round wins. If there's still a draw I'll decide.

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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by Hoefs Cycling Team » Sat Sep 06, 2025 5:54 pm

I like this contest idea. I want to design, but i am not able to play C4F from 20 december till 5 januari. Small chance i win because this will be my second design. But if i win i want to ride it ofcourse. So may the winner choose the date?
The chance i dont win is big: what are the chances my design will be on calendar later on? How big is the chance i spend a lot of time for nothing?

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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by schappy » Sat Sep 06, 2025 6:38 pm

Hoefs Cycling Team wrote:
Sat Sep 06, 2025 5:54 pm
I like this contest idea. I want to design, but i am not able to play C4F from 20 december till 5 januari. Small chance i win because this will be my second design. But if i win i want to ride it ofcourse. So may the winner choose the date?
The chance i dont win is big: what are the chances my design will be on calendar later on? How big is the chance i spend a lot of time for nothing?
Easily, at the moment, the Dezember Tour ends at the 14. December.
I´ve got the magic in me

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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by cataracs » Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:10 pm

Hoefs Cycling Team wrote:
Sat Sep 06, 2025 5:54 pm
I like this contest idea. I want to design, but i am not able to play C4F from 20 december till 5 januari. Small chance i win because this will be my second design. But if i win i want to ride it ofcourse. So may the winner choose the date?
December tour is always the first Monday of the month. This year it's on the 1st. So you can't choose the date but it's on the date you'd choose anyway :lol: . Winner gets to choose a time though, so there's that.

Hoefs Cycling Team wrote:
Sat Sep 06, 2025 5:54 pm
The chance i dont win is big: what are the chances my design will be on calendar later on? How big is the chance i spend a lot of time for nothing?
It's not for nothing! If you don't win and end up second your tour will be in January. If not second, then still we can use your races as one day races if you'd like. So it's never a loss.

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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by Radunion » Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:58 pm

Is there anything against South America or even the Andes as long as the tour is not extreme? I am not sure I want to design this year, just curious.


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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by NBeullens » Sat Sep 06, 2025 9:57 pm

where are you going to locate it Hoefs? Need to know if your not on my territory ;)

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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by cataracs » Sat Sep 06, 2025 10:50 pm

Radunion wrote:
Sat Sep 06, 2025 7:58 pm
Is there anything against South America or even the Andes as long as the tour is not extreme? I am not sure I want to design this year, just curious.
No, we've had plenty of South American Dec tours. (probably :lol: )

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Re: December Tour 2025 - Rules & Discussion

Post by Hoefs Cycling Team » Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:16 am

NBeullens wrote:
Sat Sep 06, 2025 9:57 pm
where are you going to locate it Hoefs? Need to know if your not on my territory ;)
I am on everybodys territory and certain on yours 😜

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