March 2023

[claw]

Taka is the designerr, and he seemed convinced by another users criticism and changed it as designer... so it indeed stays designers choice.

No need to explain this, im just unhappy that it only works in one direction again..
And that being said, the majority actually seems to agree that the races have to be shortened in terms of time needed..

But the result is now that we again have a ton of plain flat shitty stages lasting more than two hours..

[Robyklebt]

No need to explain this, im just unhappy that it only works in one direction again..

Ok, so you were just trying to waste my time?

Good job, you did, hope you are proud of yourself now.

[claw]

No need to explain this, im just unhappy that it only works in one direction again..

Ok, so you were just trying to waste my time?

Good job, you did, hope you are proud of yourself now.

The irony about wasting time, hm?

[Robyklebt]

You don't seem to see it...

[claw]

You don't seem to see it...

I have no idea what that means.. it just tells my that i hurt your feelings, what wasnt my intention in the first place.
But you could at leats start to care about the opinions of others instead of just "wanting everything to be as it was 15 years ago".

The main reason nobody plays this game anymore is that long ago, most of us seemed to be around their eraly 20s where you have some more time to spend on hobbys compared to now, where a lot of us are obviously in their mid-30s and have families and a live...

[Robyklebt]

You don't seem to see it...

But you could at leats start to care about the opinions of others instead of just "wanting everything to be as it was 15 years ago".

Explain with examples.

[cataracs]

Well, Claw. User Big Donkey complained about the short mintcat and gave arguments, then another user voted for at least 15km of mintact. And that was it, nobody else commented about the mintact.
User Taka who didn't write his opinion (like you) thought 5 more minutes wouldn't hurt and especially since the tour will be at 21 instead of 22.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Taka is the designerr, and he seemed convinced by another users criticism and changed it as designer... so it indeed stays designers choice.

No need to explain this, im just unhappy that it only works in one direction again..
And that being said, the majority actually seems to agree that the races have to be shortened in terms of time needed..

But the result is now that we again have a ton of plain flat shitty stages lasting more than two hours..

Claw, the difference is just that someone commented on Tiirreno and nobody commented on Paris Nice. Why not comment on Paris Nice next time and say - for example - stage 1 and stage 2 could have shorter mintact? Just an idea.

[claw]

Has nothing to do with what im talking about.
But you know what? I dont even fucking care, gonna quit anyways

[Gipfelstuermer]

Don't think quitting is the best choice. Better to fight for the shorter mintact.

Anyway, final March PDF now online.

[team fl]

There are two Trofej Umags on March 2, with different profiles.

And it looks like that GP Jean-Pierre Monsere has the usual pavé/GPM on the same km problem.

[Robyklebt]

Umag, thanks. Even if it was mentioned, quite far back already now....

On the 2n right now Umag on twice, but once the wrong profile. Will delete the wrong profile later, since after using the deletion tool can't put up stuff for ?? hours. Used to be hours, last time I tried then was 2 days or so... Buggy stuff. So will be deleted in 2 days or so.

Stupid Monsere, argh, grr, aaa, brrr.... completely forgot, will think of something

[Robyklebt]

Catalunya done, see first page. Will upload later today



Don't remember finding street view when designing this before.

That pavé looks very bad in places, especially Valtherzandweg, so did the first 2 km of that at ****. Rest at 3, it's not 4 km and in parts later (I didn't click through the whole 3,7 km) a bit easier.

The rest stays at ***, even if Exloo had a worse part somewhere too. But then I can't really tell **** or *** or ***** either, just because I look at google street of pavé too much doesn't mean I get it right...
But finally most of it is longer than in reality, 3700, 3600 meters at 4 km. not downgraded for 1 km, (400+500 meters yes) so the rest staying at *** seems ok too. But if somebody feels like it, feel free to check.

In the end not so important probably because the pavé is so early, sprinters dropped anyway...

[Robyklebt]

No more races will come on before the month change.
All races were something useful enough to design was found are online I think.

GP Harelbeke now twice, but if you change to edition it's the correct 4 times, no idea why a time change, added another entry in the calendar overwiew, but seems to be just a display bug... new one.

ITT and TTT on as well.

Check for mistakes!

Important races not on,
DVV slighly longer it seems, but mostly should be the same.
Gent-Wevelgem found nothing useful, but assume it's the basically the same as usual.
Denain heavy pavé, different order. On their site they have a rating, all looks heavy, ****, *****. Assume we'll just take that rating. Or check PR how they rate the same sectors there to see if it's the same, if not take the PR rating?

[Robyklebt]

Denain done, took the ratings from their site. 196 km, 164 mintact.

For what remains to be designed see first post.

[Robyklebt]

2 slightly different approaches to the Kemmelberg, minmal difference



Easier start, same finish as last year



The usual countless "climbs", but other route than last year.

[Robyklebt]

Gent-Wevelgem, 261 km, mintact at 222. 3 times Kemmelberg, third time from a different side.

[Robyklebt]

Lots of IS and GPMs, new route, but nothing really changes. There's a "golden km" around the pavé bit, not explained what it is exactly anywhere, assumed the same as it usually is, so added 2 IS there.

Planned to do Dwars now too, but will be tomorrow..

[Robyklebt]

For details looks look here:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=67&p=112652&hilit= ... 2A#p116236

[lennylenny]

Adélie de Vitré same as last year