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Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:58 pm
by ProTour-Team
Depends a bit on when RSF will be back up and you can actually change the calender...
Postponing RVV tomorrow is easier as the morning version is already done.
Postponing Pais Vasco with the ITT as a halfstage should be ok imo as the energy for stage2 doesnt change too much and it isnt the biggest gc stage either. If it is possible to have normal reg that time after a halfstage even better but without seems good to me.
Missing out on Amstel for the Pais guys would be bad but imo just cutting RVV would be much worse, Amstel 1 day later could be an option too.
Not sure what the onedayrace tomorrow would have been, but deleting it or having it later in the month wont make a difference^^
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:09 pm
by Liquigas-CND
ProTour-Team wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 7:58 pm
Depends a bit on when RSF will be back up and you can actually change the calender...
Postponing RVV tomorrow is easier as the morning version is already done.
Postponing Pais Vasco with the ITT as a halfstage should be ok imo as the energy for stage2 doesnt change too much and it isnt the biggest gc stage either. If it is possible to have normal reg that time after a halfstage even better but without seems good to me.
Missing out on Amstel for the Pais guys would be bad but imo just cutting RVV would be much worse, Amstel 1 day later could be an option too.
Not sure what the onedayrace tomorrow would have been, but deleting it or having it later in the month wont make a difference^^
Useless post! Just leave the schedule as it is.
RVV is lost, no need to reschedule for free team pro team etc
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:19 pm
by ProTour-Team
thx for announcing your useless post right at the start
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:22 pm
by Weezel
ProTour-Team wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:19 pm
thx for announcing your useless post right at the start
This!
It seems Liqdings is not only weird during races...
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 9:55 pm
by Liquigas-CND
Most likely the game wont work for few days and the loser tries to influence others to make the schedule just because he was super favo to win this race!
Prepare for next year and shut up!
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:08 pm
by Liquigas-CND
What Free would have done if today was PR instead of RVV?
Loser trying to influence others to reschedule this race just because he has very very high chances to win.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:22 pm
by Hansa
My opinion if it is up tomorrow put rvv on monday and the itt as half stage starting pais vasco on tuesday.
If its not up tomorrow i guess cut rvv and just proceed with pais vasco starting on tuesday with itt as half stage.
If its not up by tuesday we can think about it again.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:36 pm
by Mangahn
Hanse wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:22 pm
My opinion if it is up tomorrow put rvv on monday and the itt as half stage starting pais vasco on tuesday.
If its not up tomorrow i guess cut rvv and just proceed with pais vasco starting on tuesday with itt as half stage.
If its not up by tuesday we can think about it again.
Soweit klug und richtig.
Was machen wir bei einer Wiederholung mit Alk, Falke und Konsorten. Darauf setzen, Das sie freiwillig kein zweites Mal antreten?
Androhen, dass es bugusing wäre?
Re: April 2022
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:52 pm
by Hansa
Mangahn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:36 pm
Hanse wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:22 pm
My opinion if it is up tomorrow put rvv on monday and the itt as half stage starting pais vasco on tuesday.
If its not up tomorrow i guess cut rvv and just proceed with pais vasco starting on tuesday with itt as half stage.
If its not up by tuesday we can think about it again.
Soweit klug und richtig.
Was machen wir bei einer Wiederholung mit Alk, Falke und Konsorten. Darauf setzen, Das sie freiwillig kein zweites Mal antreten?
Androhen, dass es bugusing wäre?
Sie ein 2. Mal fahren lassen wenn die das wollen.
Aber rvv nicht am morgen anbieten falls es so früh überhaupt läuft.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:08 am
by flockmastoR
IMO: Best solution would be to continue the race at 15h as it is stuck right now or release all teams and offer the race again at 15h (and later versions). Pais Vasco starting one day later and making the TT as a half stage is reasonable and won't interfere with races (Amstel).
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:10 am
by flockmastoR
Hanse wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 11:52 pm
Mangahn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:36 pm
Hanse wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 10:22 pm
My opinion if it is up tomorrow put rvv on monday and the itt as half stage starting pais vasco on tuesday.
If its not up tomorrow i guess cut rvv and just proceed with pais vasco starting on tuesday with itt as half stage.
If its not up by tuesday we can think about it again.
Soweit klug und richtig.
Was machen wir bei einer Wiederholung mit Alk, Falke und Konsorten. Darauf setzen, Das sie freiwillig kein zweites Mal antreten?
Androhen, dass es bugusing wäre?
Sie ein 2. Mal fahren lassen wenn die das wollen.
Aber rvv nicht am morgen anbieten falls es so früh überhaupt läuft.
Ich würde an die paar teams appelieren, sich nicht an dem Schaden Anderer zu bereichern. Wer meint er müsse RVV 2 mal bestreiten kann dann ein Jahr an den Pranger gestellt werden.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:36 am
by Robyklebt
I plan to start twice.
More seriously, if we can free the stuck teams, seems clear most want RVV today, PV tomorrow.
If the stuck teams don't become free teams (multis? Hihi, haha)...?
Personally opposed to RVV tomorrow. Half stages PV then make no sense, we would need to cut stages too.
But a possibility.
Put late RVV editions on, stuck teams are stuck, that's life? Rest can ride?
Other ideas?
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:49 am
by Hansa
Would be for having the late rvv editions bad for the afternoon but no need to punish other teams too.
If we cant get rvv today i would say we cancel it.
Starting PV tomorrow with itt half stage no matter what happens today
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:18 am
by flockmastoR
Robyklebt wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 10:36 am
I plan to start twice.
More seriously, if we can free the stuck teams, seems clear most want RVV today, PV tomorrow.
If the stuck teams don't become free teams (multis? Hihi, haha)...?
Personally opposed to RVV tomorrow. Half stages PV then make no sense, we would need to cut stages too.
But a possibility.
Put late RVV editions on, stuck teams are stuck, that's life? Rest can ride?
Other ideas?
Teams will get released, luques already told us he can do it around 1pm, Alk also has a clue and access to what has to be done. Just that you have a clue when this could happen
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:29 am
by Mangahn
Nicht ganz so eilig, aber könnte man die Kategorie von Amstel Gold am 10.04 noch ändern? Rennen, die wir bei RSF immer wieder gefahren sind, sind doch mindestens Kat 2 oder 3, wenn ich mich recht erinnere.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:42 am
by team fl
Mangahn wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:29 am
Nicht ganz so eilig, aber könnte man die Kategorie von Amstel Gold am 10.04 noch ändern? Rennen, die wir bei RSF immer wieder gefahren sind, sind doch mindestens Kat 2 oder 3, wenn ich mich recht erinnere.
Lediglich in der Nebensaison, aus Mangel an echten Klassikern. Während der Hauptsaison sind pure Fantasy- und Kirmesrennen Kat. 1
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:50 am
by Gipfelstuermer
flockmastoR wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:18 am
Teams will get released, luques already told us he can do it around 1pm, Alk also has a clue and access to what has to be done. Just that you have a clue when this could happen
Postponed RVV is online. 15, 18, 21.
Teams will hopefully be free on time.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:44 pm
by Chense
What happens to pv so? Would have planned to start there even if we need some halfstage then
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:18 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Chense wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:44 pm
What happens to pv so? Would have planned to start there even if we need some halfstage then
The plan is that it starts tomorrow with the halfstage. Optimistic, that either Roby or me are able to upload it today.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:21 pm
by Hansa
normal reg after the ITT wont be possible i guess?
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:56 pm
by flockmastoR
PV still not in the calender
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:10 pm
by Robyklebt
Will come soon, soon, almost started already
REg? Nothing the calendar assistant can do about that.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 6:43 pm
by Robyklebt
On, check for mistakes (as with Amstel.... thanks) as usual.
Re: April 2022
Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:35 pm
by Robyklebt
Brabant done
Different pavé than in the past after all, but still very short, 300 meters... both on hills now, the flat one is gone.
Paris-Camembert
Minor changes here too, flat pavé part at *** gone. Main climb, now 9. la flamme rouge says 1.6 km at 6.3%, the gpx file says 9, last year 8, so 9...
Re: April 2022
Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:37 pm
by Robyklebt
Grand classic Besançon,, mountain finish 11 10 5 7
Tour du Jura Cycliste, a 6 finish too.
New races in 2021, used to be a Tour before, now the second year one day races, but we couldn't find profiles a year ago.