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Luques hasn't been on a while it seems, so a preview of the preview I sent him:

One day races, here and there, who cares, or we can try to figure out if I missed some once Luques posts the PDF.

Tour de France from the 26th 10-14-19-22 changes of course possible if enough people request it.
Tour de Suisse: 06.06.-13.06. 2 options:
1) 4 editions: 10-15-18-21 my proposal to Luques there. Basically the Giro times... (morning different)
2) 3 editions: 10-16-21 (early evening cut, not ideal... there possibly was some sort of thinking behind it when I made that, but forgot it by now, a week ago after all.)

I think 4 editions better, 2 Dauphiné parallel to the Giro and then to the TdS, but with the Giro teams coming might still be decent enough groups. Even if I suspect some times will lose some teams compared to the Giro.

Adriatica Ionica 14.06.-18.06. 9-14-19-22 Here the Tour times with the morning exception again.

Comments? Especially the Tour times and the 3 or 4 questions about the TdS

Tour de France I would prefer 09.00

Schartner Bombe wrote: ↑

Wed May 19, 2021 12:30 pm

Tour de France I would prefer 09.00

Ditto! Team Alkworld also prefers 9am

Alkworld wrote: ↑

Wed May 19, 2021 2:52 pm

Schartner Bombe wrote: ↑

Wed May 19, 2021 12:30 pm

Tour de France I would prefer 09.00

Ditto! Team Alkworld also prefers 9am

dito team furpach

Schartner Bombe wrote: ↑

Wed May 19, 2021 12:30 pm

Tour de France I would prefer 09.00

Same here.

I prefer 20 o clock

19h ok for me would prefer 18h and dont really like 20h for tdf

22 or 23 would be great.

Is anyone already drawing the Tour? Didn´t saw it anywhere...

What about Baloise Belgium Tour? 9.06.-13.06.

https://www.sport.be/baloisebelgiumtour/2021/nl/

Profiles and gpx already online...

With the TdS parallel? We don't have the numbers. We don't have the players. 2+2? TdS more important, clearly.

TdS some changes to the route from last year after all:

Stage 4 to Gstaad.
Stage 5 from Gstaad. Both instead of Moudon.

Stage 4 the last climb is closer to the finish, 10 to the goal from the top was around 15 with Moudon finish. But in the end doesn't change much, still for classics and not hill sprinters normally.

Dauphiné 14-22 online. For some reason the afternoon had the best participation after the evening parallel to the Giro. So biggest chance to get a 2 team group at that time maybe.

Haven't heard from Luques, but unless he tells us something different, or lots of people suddenly appear, I assume it will be:

TdS: 6-13.06. 10-15-18-21
Adriatica Ionica: 15.06.-17.06, only 3 days now. 9-14-19-22
TdF: 9-14-19-22

Robyklebt wrote: ↑

Mon May 24, 2021 6:49 pm

With the TdS parallel? We don't have the numbers. We don't have the players. 2+2? TdS more important, clearly.

Maybe putting this tour later on this month? Between the 18 and the beginning of the tdf?

TdS on, will try to put on as many 1 day races (real ones) as possible before Monday. But a bit busy today, tomorrow too most likely, so might take time.

Still no Luques.

Races until 3rd on

REal races: Some need redesigning, so will do a bunch tomorrow and put it on: Redesign but will all be very similar to last years versions, at least the ones I have checked

4: Gippingen
5: Hageland + Heistse
6. Elfensted
7. Rund um Köln
8 Mont Ventoux denivele
16. Halle Ingooigem
24. Appennino
27. Lugano

Stage race:
Adriatica Ionica 15-17: 9-14-19-22: No idea about the parcours at this point

From the 26th the TdF, check their website for how the first 5 stages in June will be

A first batch of races will be online in not too long... here short preview

Gippingen, last 2 laps different climb than we had until now. Basically an extension of the main climb, doesn't change much.



Hageland:
Changed quite a bit. It's gravel road, we had that at 2 in Tro Bro Leon for a while, so here too. Used the km from their site, not la flamme rouge, the length of one gravel sector differs by 2 km... Grasbos at 5 is maybe too much, was 4 last year. But 550 meters, 8,1% according to dutch Wikipedia, we can overdesign that to 5. Finish is on pavé, but looked like one on googe street to me.



Elfstedenronde: Irrelevant changes really. Pavé IMO is all *

All real one day races except Appennino (couldn't find anything useful on their site or la flamme rouge) online.

Pavé races online.

No ITT one day races again, not working in new version still I guess.


Stage races not online
15-17.06 Adriatica Ionica: 9-14-19-22
26.06--: Tour de France: 9-14-19-22

Times bold.

Adriatica Ionica will be officially presented today, so route should be online there (and la flamme rouge) soon. Will design either later today but most likely tomorrow (or at least finish then) and put online.