June 2018

[luques]

http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/june2018.pdf

JUNE 2018

[CircleCycle]

I kindly ask also to offer TdS in the morning.

and maybe you find a place for this beauty.... (didnt do recalculate evelation yet)

[CircleCycle]

[Hunsrueck]

Tour de Suisse 2018











Stage 1 Team Time Trial
Stage 9 ITT

[High Flyer]

18th blank because it will be NC right? right?

[kielgy]

18th blank because it will be NC right? right?

Mondays?? please don t...

[luques]

18th blank because it will be NC right? right?

Mondays?? please don t...

No they are planned for 1st July

[kielgy]

18th blank because it will be NC right? right?

Mondays?? please don t...

No they are planned for 1st July

Perfect!!

[luques]

As for Savoie, possible to do in parallel with Ionica.

Morning edition of Swisse, possible yes, need to tune the others still, every other proposal is appreciated too

[Pokemon Club]

Midnight for Dauphiné is late, I know italians people like it, but we go to bed earlier in France !

[Pokemon Club]

And I don't get the sense to offer 20-24 for Dauphiné and 21-23 TdS. You can at least offer 20-23 Dauphiné and 21-24 TdS

[luques]

And I don't get the sense to offer 20-24 for Dauphiné and 21-23 TdS. You can at least offer 20-23 Dauphiné and 21-24 TdS

And still nothing at 22h, like Giro... -_-

maybe TDF at 22h, at least? 21h is too early then I miss all starts ; and when it's 23h, the end of the race is after 1 am for several stages => very hard when the clock rings the next morning!

=> Dauhpiné / TDS => 20-22 for one and 21-23 for the other one?

In case I would be for swapping times between Dauphine and TDS, and putting TDS at 22. This because Luxembourg is already at 22 and it would overlap with Dauphiné at 22 too in case (it would be useless to have 2 parallel tours at the same time).

[IDF]

Why putting 2 tours in // of Suisse?

I mean, ok people who will do Dauphiné will not ride Suisse , but having one tour for them is enough no?

Putting Occitanie (or ex-Garonne haha, i don't like the new names in France.. sucks) or Slovenia quite later , after the end of Suisse?

[luques]

Why putting 2 tours in // of Suisse?

I mean, ok people who will do Dauphiné will not ride Suisse , but having one tour for them is enough no?

Putting Occitanie (or ex-Garonne haha, i don't like the new names in France.. sucks) or Slovenia quite later , after the end of Suisse?

After we have already Ionica and Savoie, the week after it is NC, so basically or it is there, or we eliminate it.

[kielgy]

Why not start suisse 2 days later an occitanie on monday 25th.

is it really and always necessary to start the like they start in reallity?

3 tours at the same time for about 4-5 days .... so we have a lot of one day races with 1-3 teams... big big fun... Ah, no, sorry, no fun... no fun for nobody = loosing more managers??

I prefer riding in fields with more teams... but in times like this, like now for example... its really not fun...

(in my opinion, there should be one tour at one time, not more. except GTs maybe, to have little tours in sideprogramm)

[Joy]

Why putting 2 tours in // of Suisse?

I mean, ok people who will do Dauphiné will not ride Suisse , but having one tour for them is enough no?

Putting Occitanie (or ex-Garonne haha, i don't like the new names in France.. sucks) or Slovenia quite later , after the end of Suisse?

Maybe developers will allow the teams to ride 2races/day (ofc 1rider-1race/day) just like in real cycling ...lots of beneficts from this decision will come

[Joy]

Why putting 2 tours in // of Suisse?

I mean, ok people who will do Dauphiné will not ride Suisse , but having one tour for them is enough no?

Putting Occitanie (or ex-Garonne haha, i don't like the new names in France.. sucks) or Slovenia quite later , after the end of Suisse?

Maybe developers will allow the teams to ride 2races/day (ofc 1rider-1race/day) just like in real cycling ...lots of beneficts from this decision will come

What % of teams have minimum 16-17 riders?
Very unfair for small teams... twice less money while big teams will earn it. The transfer market would become horrible to get a simple classic...

+50% of active managers have already +16 riders,or they can have if they want to
small teams? the game doesnt really help a new team to develop (15M for 9 riders at start c'mon aint a big help ) but the smart ones ho really wanna play they get to 16 riders in less then 1 year,still u can offer them more to help them to develop ...they have no chance anyway with this 15M for 9 riders
market is messed up anyway with this so called multis(dunno if they are) and the high biders just to screw up the market
anything can be solved,if wanted to ....just imagine the fight for Champ Div1..some will ride 2 races some will not so u can balance this lucky training

[CircleCycle]

Savoie Mont Blanc finished

[luques]

You are going a bit off topic, not that it isn't interesting but still it is more about features.

Moving Swisse or Dauphiné impossible considering the importance of the races, I would be in favor of eliminating Occitanie (or how it is written), giving 3 paths: Luxembourg + Swisse or Dauphiné + Slovenia or Luxembourg + Slovenia.

[Robyklebt]

How many editions?
Both for the main race, TdS+Dauphiné... 4 seems to be ok for everybody, so 4 I guess.
Parallel programm? Lux is already 4. Slovenia?

[Hunsrueck]

Would it always be possible to have a race at 20 or 21 o'clock?
I think there are the most active users at the start.
Especially at tours.

[Coroncina2]

TdS at 23 for me would be perfect.
I hope you will decide june calendar 15 min before 00:00 1/6/18
@ Man Sergu
here we use to play main races with 9 riders/team. Better no chance the game so much. We will play like that till last old manager survive.
So team will need 18 rider to be sure to play 2 races/day

[Joy]

TdS at 23 for me would be perfect.
I hope you will decide june calendar 15 min before 00:00 1/6/18
@ Man Sergu
here we use to play main races with 9 riders/team. Better no chance the game so much. We will play like that till last old manager survive.
So team will need 18 rider to be sure to play 2 races/day

kk,i know u like to play the old style...but not that sure if u like to play this game just you the old managers,so need to think for all managers not just for the old ones
cheers

[Robyklebt]

He's just being polemic. He's on your side, if you want to call it a side.
The whole old players vs new players argument is an incredible idiocy anyway. Doesn't actually exist, this old players vs new players ideological difference.
It's used by some managers like you or Coro when they don't have arguments, don't agree with how something is done, but are unable or refuse to actually address the issue. Try to dismiss others opinion as invalid, by claiming, groundlessly and in a cowardly way insultingly, that their opinion is somehow invalid because it's not based on anything more than "protecting your status". How the disagreed with policies actually are supposed to b advantageous for the oldies is never explained though.

[luques]

So I would say, Occitanie out.
Dauphine 14-18-20-23
Tour de Suisse 9-15-21-24
Slovenia 10 - 19 - 22
Adriatica 10-15-18-22
Savoie 12 - 19 - 23 (really not sure about this)

So French guys will have Dauphiné one hour earlier, still having the midnight edition for Suisse. 22h will have all the month covered, Luxembourg - Slovenia and Adriatica.

Suisse has the morning edition, considered there were more requests than Dauphiné. Savoie introduced in parallel with Adriatica.

I guess for TdF times we can make a poll later, not against 22h anyway, giving Vuelta maybe the 24h spot (or 23 again).

Let's see if someone is happy