January 2018

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Re: January 2018

Post by luques » Thu Dec 28, 2017 8:38 pm

Robyklebt wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:48 pm
Not fully convinced by the Down Under/Amissa Bongo/San Juan solution.
By offering it like this you offer a very attractive alternative program at the expense of the main race, which in this case is clearly Down Under. Something that IMO should be avoided. Don't make the alternative program more attractive than it is in reality. Here San Juan a day later would make more sense, since then you don't "hurt" DU.
But ok, Jan., who cares.

Times: Good for the 3 tours at the end. Before that: Afternoon much. Everything. Morning misses one, early evening 2! Give one afternoon to the early evening.
I am not that sure that the alternative program is so attractive, if you play Amissa Bongo and San Juan you will miss January Tour and Sharia. Actually the only way to make the most possible number of tour days is by playing TDU. Restriction of playing times too is a factor.
I thought was worse the idea of having TDU and San Luis in palmares in the same year.

For times I check again, guess one between Tropicale or Sharja has to change for evening.

Seems to me it's almost ok, in case after tomorrow will start to put it online.

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Re: January 2018

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Dec 29, 2017 12:58 am

It's more attractive than it should be according to the Donkey.
January-Tropicale Amissa Bongo wouldn't be possible if you followed reality regarding Amissa either, so don't really see that as an argument. But allowing TAB-SJ clearly strengthens the alternative program. I don't really have a huge problem with it this time, so I'm mostly mentioning it pro forma and for the future. Because I think this kind of tinkering that favours an alternative program over the main one is contra-productive.
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Re: January 2018

Post by Pokemon Club » Fri Dec 29, 2017 1:38 am

Mallorca with 5 editions ? And not possible to put Palma with the rest ?

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Re: January 2018

Post by luques » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:22 am

Robyklebt wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:48 pm
Times: Good for the 3 tours at the end. Before that: Afternoon much. Everything. Morning misses one, early evening 2! Give one afternoon to the early evening.
Tropicale then at 10 19 and 22

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Re: January 2018

Post by team fl » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:39 am

What I dont get though is why the Tour des Pavés with no parallel tour has only 4 editions and times that are critical for both pure morning and afternoon players. 11h will end after noon and 16h end the early evening. 19h is also not pure evening and also not pure early evening. Why not go conservative qith 9/10-14/15-18-20/21-22/23? The / meaning either or. Just my 2 cents. Maybe Ive overseen something you guys already thought about...
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Re: January 2018

Post by Hunsrueck » Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:36 pm

team fl wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:39 am
What I dont get though is why the Tour des Pavés with no parallel tour has only 4 editions and times that are critical for both pure morning and afternoon players. 11h will end after noon and 16h end the early evening. 19h is also not pure evening and also not pure early evening. Why not go conservative qith 9/10-14/15-18-20/21-22/23? The / meaning either or. Just my 2 cents. Maybe Ive overseen something you guys already thought about...
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Re: January 2018

Post by Liquigas-CND » Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:45 pm

Hunsrueck wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:36 pm
team fl wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:39 am
What I dont get though is why the Tour des Pavés with no parallel tour has only 4 editions and times that are critical for both pure morning and afternoon players. 11h will end after noon and 16h end the early evening. 19h is also not pure evening and also not pure early evening. Why not go conservative qith 9/10-14/15-18-20/21-22/23? The / meaning either or. Just my 2 cents. Maybe Ive overseen something you guys already thought about...
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I know nobody cares but I have to mention that I missed many races in the last period and the reason was already mentioned by Mr. FL.
Quite difficult for guys with jobs/school to race at 11h or 16h.
11-12h due to lauch time and 16-17h cause is close to the time for leaving home.
I support classic morning and afternoon (9/10H and 14-15 H)

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Re: January 2018

Post by luques » Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:37 am

Liquigas-CND wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:45 pm
Hunsrueck wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 1:36 pm
team fl wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:39 am
What I dont get though is why the Tour des Pavés with no parallel tour has only 4 editions and times that are critical for both pure morning and afternoon players. 11h will end after noon and 16h end the early evening. 19h is also not pure evening and also not pure early evening. Why not go conservative qith 9/10-14/15-18-20/21-22/23? The / meaning either or. Just my 2 cents. Maybe Ive overseen something you guys already thought about...
+1
+1
I know nobody cares but I have to mention that I missed many races in the last period and the reason was already mentioned by Mr. FL.
Quite difficult for guys with jobs/school to race at 11h or 16h.
11-12h due to lauch time and 16-17h cause is close to the time for leaving home.
I support classic morning and afternoon (9/10H and 14-15 H)

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Sorry for that, actually I saw your messages too late and there were already too many people inscribed at that time to make a change.

Actually there was some idea in it (wrong it seems but still), as I think everybody is at home today (and some maybe also next ones, for examples guys going university or school) thought people would appreciate sleeping after 31 December, and that partecipation may have been not that good considering the holiday period. Probably 10-15 would have been more senseful, will remember for next year.

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Re: January 2018

Post by Pokemon Club » Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:47 pm

Luques for San Juan miss the restday can you change it ?

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Re: January 2018

Post by Alkworld » Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:52 am

At Down Under stage 2, min tact is starting from km 11. Something like km 121 might be more suitable.

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Re: January 2018

Post by Pokemon Club » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:32 pm

luques seems totally off, surely a problem with his computer

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Re: January 2018

Post by luques » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:14 pm

Alkworld wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:52 am
At Down Under stage 2, min tact is starting from km 11. Something like km 121 might be more suitable.
This if fixed, just trust you and put km121

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Re: January 2018

Post by luques » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:14 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:32 pm
luques seems totally off, surely a problem with his computer
Fixed :D

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Re: January 2018

Post by luques » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:16 pm

For San Juan will fix today or tomorrow, basically need to redo again.
Will post a news for people already inscribed, luckily still is not near.

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