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Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:06 pm**

JULY 2017

http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/july2017.pdf

01-23 Jul 17 Tour de France FRA ME 2.UWT
02 Jul 17 KOGA Slag om Norg NED ME 1.1
02-08 Jul 17 Int. Österreich-Rundfahrt-Tour of Austria AUT ME 2.1
05-09 Jul 17 Sibiu Cycling Tour ROU ME 2.1
08 Jul 17 Grote prijs Jean-Pierre Monseré BEL ME 1.1
09 Jul 17 Velothon Wales GBR ME 1.1
16-29 Jul 17 Tour of Qinghai Lake CHN ME 2.HC
16 Jul 17 Trofeo Matteotti ITA ME 1.1
19 Jul 17 Grand Prix Cerami BEL ME 1.1
22-26 Jul 17 VOO-Tour de Wallonie BEL ME 2.HC
25 Jul 17 Prueba Villafranca-Ordiziako Klasika ESP ME 1.1
29 Jul 17 Clasica Ciclista San Sebastian ESP ME 1.UWT
29 Jul 17 - 04 Aug 17 Tour de Pologne POL ME 2.UWT
30 Jul 17 Rad am Ring GER ME 1.1
30 Jul 17 La Poly Normande FRA ME 1.1
30 Jul 17 Prudential RideLondon-Surrey Classic GBR ME 1.UWT
31 Jul 17 - 06 Aug 17 The Larry H.Miller Tour of Utah USA ME 2.HC
31 Jul 17 Circuito de Getxo "Memorial Ricardo Otxoa" ESP ME 1.1

ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2016

Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:07 pm**

Guess we can skip the Chinese Tour, postpone Sibiu to overlap just with Le Tour and for the rest keep as it is.

Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2017 9:47 pm**

luques wrote:Guess we can skip the Chinese Tour, postpone Sibiu to overlap just with Le Tour and for the rest keep as it is.

29 Jul 17 - 04 Aug 17 Tour de Pologne POL ME 2.UWT
31 Jul 17 - 06 Aug 17 The Larry H.Miller Tour of Utah USA ME 2.HC

OK but don't forget :

01-05 Aug 17 Vuelta a Burgos ESP ME 2.HC
04-15 Aug 17 Volta a Portugal em Bicicleta Santander Totta POR ME 2.1

Posted: **Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:10 pm**

If we start a discussion about postponing etc.
Then I bring also the idea to cancel Sibiu and ride Poland instead a week earlier with finishing it on 28th. Then 29th San Sebastian, 30th London and 31st Utah starting.
EDIT: Well, just saw that then riding TdF and Poland is not possible... hm... well was just a suggestion....

Posted: **Thu Jun 22, 2017 2:32 pm**

luques wrote:Guess we can skip the Chinese Tour, postpone Sibiu to overlap just with Le Tour and for the rest keep as it is.

Skip Qinghai, YES.
Postpone Sibiu, no. By postponing it you just make the parallel program to the tour more attractive. 2 tours in a row, more money! The more people ride the tour, the better, so don't make the side-dish more attractive.
Offer Sibiu, since there are Romanians here and they deserve their race. But not more than 5 combined editions of Austria+Sibiu.

Any ideas of the times for the TdF?

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:42 am**

Robyklebt wrote:
luques wrote:Guess we can skip the Chinese Tour, postpone Sibiu to overlap just with Le Tour and for the rest keep as it is.
Skip Qinghai, YES.
Postpone Sibiu, no. By postponing it you just make the parallel program to the tour more attractive. 2 tours in a row, more money! The more people ride the tour, the better, so don't make the side-dish more attractive.
Offer Sibiu, since there are Romanians here and they deserve their race. But not more than 5 combined editions of Austria+Sibiu.

Any ideas of the times for the TdF?

Better do just Tour de France.
Just don't care who is not able to play for 3 week at same hour.
I can help to drow some races if you need.

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:41 am**

For a guy who was whining, yelling, complaining, throwing fits, promising (not threatening!) to stop playing because the game isn't REALISTIC just a few months ago this reaction sure is interesting. It shows that you don't care about realism in the least, just about having the game organized in a way that profits you. But ok, anybody who paid attention already knew that.

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 2:37 pm**

Funny to see you are not happy that despite everything I decide continue to play.
This show 1 more time that the organization of game want that the game is just for some teams.
You should close all and play only with your elite.

Home page say:
All races ! Live !
against real opponents !
Day after day
all the cycling calendar ![/size]

Compose and train your team and lead it to the victory !
Adapt your tactic every km !

RSF is a cycling sport game, where you can race every km online. You obtain every km all informations about all riders and can adapt your tactic to every new situation.

Enjoy the feeling of cycling sport!

I don't like your intention "not make the side-dish more attractive" (because if teams don't want or haven't time to play Tour you should force them to play it modifying real calendar), but seem in concrete you propose to make real calendar.

Btw I'm ok Skip Qinghai just because its web site doesn't work at the moment and it's impossible to drow without any info.
With info of the Cinese tour my calendar would be:
Austria 2-8/7 mountain tour cat. 2.1
Qinghai 3-16/7 flat tour (probably) cat HC
Sibiu 17-21/7 mountain tour cat 2.1
Wallonie 22-26/7 classic tour cat 2.HC
Pologne 29/7-4/8 classic tour cat. 2.UWT
Utah 31/7-6/8 moutain tour cat. HC
All main tours done and no same tipe in parallel

So classic, mountain and sprinter teams would be free to play his tours that real cycling propose.

without Qinghai just follow real calendar as you said.

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:09 pm**

Coroncina2 wrote:Funny to see you are not happy that despite everything I decide continue to play.
This show 1 more time that the organization of game want that the game is just for some teams.
You should close all and play only with your elite.

Roby is NOT part of the organization of the game. He helps and give his opinion exactly as you are doing, and as every team in the forum.

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 3:31 pm**

Coroncina2 wrote:Funny to see you are not happy that despite everything I decide continue to play.
This show 1 more time that the organization of game want that the game is just for some teams.
You should close all and play only with your elite.

Why would I or anybody else be happy that you continued to play? You promised that you'd leave unless everything would be done exactly as you wanted it. You didn't. So you're still here and still don't make any sense. Making sense, good point, maybe instead of just writing some drivel about "ELITES" you maybe could try to make a coherent argument. Something that so far you haven't managed. More than just "REALITY (but only when I want it) "ELITES". Go for it, you can do it!! (Just joking, it's obvious you can't)

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 6:35 pm**

Oh, somebody edited.

Coroncina2 wrote:I don't like your intention "not make the side-dish more attractive" (because if teams don't want or haven't time to play Tour you should force them to play it modifying real calendar), but seem in concrete you propose to make real calendar.

Yes, yes, modifying the real calendar, very bad, very bad.

Only slight little problem with your outrage: That's what YOU propose further down, not what I proposed in my post. It's pretty clear what "not make the side-dish more attractive means". I realize that for you and a few others (Liquigas, Sgummy etc) most of the time what I write is too difficult to understand, but sorry, I have no intention of dumbing down what I write, explaining every detail so that every last guy here gets it. For the big majority it's easy enough to understand.. Not for you, ok, then reread it, if that doesn't help ask somebody (but not me).

Posted: **Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:21 pm**

Coroncina2 wrote:Funny to see you are not happy that despite everything I decide continue to play.
This show 1 more time that the organization of game want that the game is just for some teams.
You should close all and play only with your elite.

Home page say:
All races ! Live !
against real opponents !
Day after day
all the cycling calendar ![/size]
Compose and train your team and lead it to the victory !
Adapt your tactic every km !

RSF is a cycling sport game, where you can race every km online. You obtain every km all informations about all riders and can adapt your tactic to every new situation.

Enjoy the feeling of cycling sport!

I don't like your intention "not make the side-dish more attractive" (because if teams don't want or haven't time to play Tour you should force them to play it modifying real calendar), but seem in concrete you propose to make real calendar.

Btw I'm ok Skip Qinghai just because its web site doesn't work at the moment and it's impossible to drow without any info.
With info of the Cinese tour my calendar would be:
Austria 2-8/7 mountain tour cat. 2.1
Qinghai 3-16/7 flat tour (probably) cat HC
Sibiu 17-21/7 mountain tour cat 2.1
Wallonie 22-26/7 classic tour cat 2.HC
Pologne 29/7-4/8 classic tour cat. 2.UWT
Utah 31/7-6/8 moutain tour cat. HC
All main tours done and no same tipe in parallel
So classic, mountain and sprinter teams would be free to play his tours that real cycling propose.

without Qinghai just follow real calendar as you said.

Qinghai ? Impossible to put that in calendar currently. Not enough people to assume 4 races in parallel. And there is already a lot for no TDF players (and a lot to draw too).

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:54 am**

Can someone post the pdf of the july calendar? Easier to plan the form with the pdf.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:31 pm**

Times?
Giro was 9-14-18-20-23.
Tour 10-15-19-21-23? To change the stuff around a bit? IMO at least 15+21 makes sense. Less sure about the others, but somehow seems good too?

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:38 pm**

Robyklebt wrote:Times?
Giro was 9-14-18-20-23.
Tour 10-15-19-21-23? To change the stuff around a bit? IMO at least 15+21 makes sense. Less sure about the others, but somehow seems good too?

I'm not sure about others, but there are usually a few morning teams happily riding at 9 at GTs to avoid interference with lunch on long stages.

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:07 pm**

Alkworld wrote:
Robyklebt wrote:Times?
Giro was 9-14-18-20-23.
Tour 10-15-19-21-23? To change the stuff around a bit? IMO at least 15+21 makes sense. Less sure about the others, but somehow seems good too?
I'm not sure about others, but there are usually a few morning teams happily riding at 9 at GTs to avoid interference with lunch on long stages.

9-15-19-21-23 ?

Posted: **Sun Jun 25, 2017 2:26 pm**

Pokemon Club wrote:
Alkworld wrote:
Robyklebt wrote:Times?
Giro was 9-14-18-20-23.
Tour 10-15-19-21-23? To change the stuff around a bit? IMO at least 15+21 makes sense. Less sure about the others, but somehow seems good too?
I'm not sure about others, but there are usually a few morning teams happily riding at 9 at GTs to avoid interference with lunch on long stages.
9-15-19-21-23 ?

Ok for this.

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:35 pm**

which tours will 100% take part in the july calender?
besides tdf of course...

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2017 1:49 pm**

Maybe putting Pologne at 28/06 instead of 29/06 in order to ride the Portugal tour could be a nice idea

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2017 3:06 pm**

IDF wrote:Maybe putting Pologne at 28/06 instead of 29/06 in order to ride the Portugal tour could be a nice idea

I would rather postpone Portugal because Pologne is higher category.

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2017 7:32 pm**

luques wrote:
IDF wrote:Maybe putting Pologne at 28/06 instead of 29/06 in order to ride the Portugal tour could be a nice idea
I would rather postpone Portugal because Pologne is higher category.

Postpone Portugal how and where ? There is Eneco and other stuff just after. Portugal deal with too much races at the same time.

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:32 pm**

Anyway I am on Wallonie, but how things go, not sure a lot will be draw before the end of the month

Posted: **Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:17 pm**

Pokemon Club wrote:
luques wrote:
IDF wrote:Maybe putting Pologne at 28/06 instead of 29/06 in order to ride the Portugal tour could be a nice idea
I would rather postpone Portugal because Pologne is higher category.
Postpone Portugal how and where ? There is Eneco and other stuff just after. Portugal deal with too much races at the same time.

No idea. But actually surely I won't anticipate a UWT Tour as Pologne for Portugal. In case Portugal has to move somewhere.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:20 pm**

Just keep Portugal where it should be. 4 or 5 for Poland, 2 editions each for the rest.

The same counts for Sibiu. In the PDF now it's 11th to 15th. What for? Keep it on the original date. With obviously less editions, both Sibiu and Austria. In the case of Portugal with 4 Tours that somehow overlap putting Portugal back 1 day so it doesn't overlap with Poland would still understandeable (but not necessary) in the TdF, Sibiu and Austria case it isn't.

And noticed that you snuck in a catastrophic category upgrade for California in May... grrrrrrrr. California cat 4...

Definetly wrong. Donks should have payed better attention to start an anti-California campaign.

Posted: **Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:49 pm**

Robyklebt wrote:Just keep Portugal where it should be. 4 or 5 for Poland, 2 editions each for the rest.

The same counts for Sibiu. In the PDF now it's 11th to 15th. What for? Keep it on the original date. With obviously less editions, both Sibiu and Austria. In the case of Portugal with 4 Tours that somehow overlap putting Portugal back 1 day so it doesn't overlap with Poland would still understandeable (but not necessary) in the TdF, Sibiu and Austria case it isn't.

And noticed that you snuck in a catastrophic category upgrade for California in May... grrrrrrrr. California cat 4... Definetly wrong. Donks should have payed better attention to start an anti-California campaign.

Sibiu stays there. Less headaches, otherwise better to cancel it definetly. Came to the conclusion that lot of people don't even know the existence of some tours, so basically not putting them in means they will not even complain about it. But put a .2 tour just 2 times and they will start to complain of unfairness.

California, uhm, probably cat 4 too much, but guess he deserve something more than cat 3. A 3.5 probably.

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