April 2017

[luques]

APRIL 2017

http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/april2017.pdf

April

01 Apr 17 Gran Premio Miguel Indurain ESP ME 1.1
01 Apr 17 Volta Limburg Classic NED ME 1.1
02 Apr 17 Ronde van Vlaanderen - Tour des Flandres BEL ME 1.UWT
02 Apr 17 Vuelta Ciclista a La Rioja ESP ME 1.1
02 Apr 17 La Roue Tourangelle Région Centre Val de Loire - Trophée Harmonie Mutuelle FRA ME 1.1
03-08 Apr 17 Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco ESP ME 2.UWT
04-07 Apr 17 Circuit Cycliste Sarthe - Pays de la Loire FRA ME 2.1
05 Apr 17 Scheldeprijs BEL ME 1.HC
09 Apr 17 Giro dell'Appennino ITA ME 1.1
09 Apr 17 Paris-Roubaix FRA ME 1.UWT
09 Apr 17 Klasika Primavera de Amorebieta ESP ME 1.1
11 Apr 17 Paris-Camembert FRA ME 1.1
12 Apr 17 De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne BEL ME 1.HC
13 Apr 17 GP de Denain - Porte du Hainaut / Valenciennes Métropole FRA ME 1.HC
15 Apr 17 Tour du Finistère FRA ME 1.1
16 Apr 17 Amstel Gold Race NED ME 1.UWT
17 Apr 17 Tro-Bro Léon FRA ME 1.1
17-21 Apr 17 Tour of the Alps 2017 ITA ME 2.HC
18-23 Apr 17 Tour of Croatia CRO ME 2.1
19 Apr 17 La Flèche Wallonne BEL ME 1.UWT
23 Apr 17 Liège-Bastogne-Liège BEL ME 1.UWT
25-30 Apr 17 Tour de Romandie SUI ME 2.UWT
28-30 Apr 17 Tour de Yorkshire GBR ME 2.1
29 Apr 17 - 01 May 17 Vuelta Asturias Julio Alvarez Mendo ESP ME 2.1

ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2016

[luques]

Single races, no big changes from last year.

As for tours, just inserted the most important ones (HC or higher), probably there is a space for Sarthe and for Yorkshire or Asturias. 5 Editions for monuments and UWT races

[team fl]

Camembert changed from cat. 3 to cat. 2 -> intentionally?

[CircleCycle]

I designed Tour of the alps already. Just have to do the altimetre-correction. Will post it as soon as possible.

this (I hope at least) should be La Rioja


also there is GP Adria Mobil 1.2 on April 2th

maybe you'll find some space later in the month for this race

[Robyklebt]

In the preview PAis Vasco overlaps with PR. Not in reality.

[luques]

In the preview PAis Vasco overlaps with PR. Not in reality.

True, don't know why I was convinced of the opposite. Now it's ok.

[luques]

Camembert changed from cat. 3 to cat. 2 -> intentionally?

Not intentionally. But now that I saw this, should Camembert be cat 3? And if yes, should also be cat 3 Limburg, Rioja, Indurain, Bro Leon and Finistere (or some of these)? GP Indurain for example is old too and can count on a good start list compared to Camembert.

[team fl]

Camembert changed from cat. 3 to cat. 2 -> intentionally?

Not intentionally. But now that I saw this, should Camembert be cat 3? And if yes, should also be cat 3 Limburg, Rioja, Indurain, Bro Leon and Finistere (or some of these)? GP Indurain for example is old too and can count on a good start list compared to Camembert.

I just wondered why it has been downgraded. I can't give you a decent answer to your question though, because I don't know much about the prestige of these races. According to the UCI, all those races have the same category, but then again, why was it different during the last years at C4F?.

[Robyklebt]

No idea about these cat 2-3 right now, will study it.

But IMO Brabant deserves to be cat 4. Look at the victors list, the start list in the past years. Both is very good. It was cat 4 for 2 years at RSF, then downgraded again... can't remember why upgraded then downgraded though...

[Robyklebt]

I designed Tour of the alps already. Just have to do the altimetre-correction. Will post it as soon as possible.

Check for tunnels!
Right now at Catalunya, stage 3, at km 93 we have a +13 followed by a -10. Before and after mostly flat, slightly up. I'm 99% sure it's a tunnel, which we don't take at RSF. Will check at km 93 to see if I'm right...Ah, pretty much sure I already found it, there is a km coming where the km point is right in the middle of a tunnel, must be that.

Suspicious stuff like this, high plus followed by high minus: Always double check!

[CircleCycle]

I designed Tour of the alps already. Just have to do the altimetre-correction. Will post it as soon as possible.

Check for tunnels!
Right now at Catalunya, stage 3, at km 93 we have a +13 followed by a -10. Before and after mostly flat, slightly up. I'm 99% sure it's a tunnel, which we don't take at RSF. Will check at km 93 to see if I'm right...Ah, pretty much sure I already found it, there is a km coming where the km point is right in the middle of a tunnel, must be that.

Suspicious stuff like this, high plus followed by high minus: Always double check!

I'm sure you are right. Problem was I designed this while playing RSF and then finished all the stages veeery fast so that it could be in the calendar asap. didn't check properly.
Only today I saw these 2 "strange" kms.

[Moscow Team Pro]

[CircleCycle]

[Moscow Team Pro]

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[Coroncina2]

In my opinion too few tours and all mountain tours.
Non my personal problem because I have a nice climber, but I think would be nice put 1-2 tour more of category UCI 2.1 just to make different tour for who doesn't like mountain or North Europe classics.
I find website of Yorkshier, La Sartre and Croatia (just with a link in UCI road calendar).

[CircleCycle]

In my opinion also too much "classic" races. These highly uninteresting cat 5 or cat 6 races... We don't need them at all. Let's skip them and put some 1.2 races instead.

[Moscow Team Pro]

March and April are the best months and more easy to read calendar. Everyone knows that in recent months there are classical and there are certain Cat.4 Tour who always have their own characteristics. My opinion is that at least the first divisions of the team should get to this point in the season, or being able to compete for these important tour or classic. If there is an increase in playing teams you could be added the minor Tour only for these. But that's just my opinion.

[Moscow Team Pro]

Stage 2b and 4 same last year

[Moscow Team Pro]

if someone wants to continue it would be very nice

[Robyklebt]

Cats, let's talk about cats.

My wife likes them, more than Donkeys, which I find somewhat worrisome, but that's life I guess. She even watches some cat live stream on youtube sometimes. She never watches the Donkey playing RSF.

As for categories, here is the deep Donkey thoughts:

First on the second, why not have Rioja there? As cat 2? It's ridden on that day in reality, why change?

Then: First Brabant. Schelde and Denain. All HC in reality, at RSF 3-4-2. Schelde clearly a 4 for me. Agreed. Brabant as I said IMO should be one too, the participation has been good for a long time now, the winners too. The problem is that we risk having too many classics then maybe sooner or later. For me Brabant more deserving of cat 4 than DDV, but ok. In the end here3 or 4 ok.. Denain at 2, the participation and winners to me seem cat 2. But it being 1.HC for the UCI maybe a 3 could be defendable?

Paris-Camembert: cat 3 compared to other 1.1 that are cat 2 not really deserved.
Age: Yes, old, that's probably the reason it was cat 3 to start with. Participation and winners: much less impressive.
Participation IMO Indurain would deserve cat 3, but should be raced on the real date, Saturday, instead of Limburg.
PC more of a 2 but history bla bla, 3 maybe ok (but not really and ONLY if Indurain gets 3 too)

Not too helpful, eh?