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February 2017

Post by luques » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:01 pm

February 2017

http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/february2017.pdf

February

01-05 Feb 17 Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana ESP ME 2.1 -> poke
01-05 Feb 17 Etoile de Bessèges FRA ME 2.1 -> poke
01-05 Feb 17 Herald Sun Tour AUS ME 2.1 -> poke
05 Feb 17 G.P. Costa degli Etruschi ITA ME 1.1
11 Feb 17 Vuelta Ciclista a la Región de Murcia "Costa Calida" ESP ME 1.1 -> poke
12 Feb 17 Trofeo Laigueglia ITA ME 1.HC
12 Feb 17 Clasica de Almeria ESP ME 1.1 -> poke
14-19 Feb 17 Tour of Oman OMA ME 2.HC -> poke
15-19 Feb 17 Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta POR ME 2.HC -> Novo
15-19 Feb 17 Vuelta a Andalucia Ruta Ciclista Del Sol ESP ME 2.HC
15-19 Feb 17 Tour de Costa Rica CRC ME 2.1
18-19 Feb 17 Tour Cycliste International du Haut Var-matin FRA ME 2.1 -> poke
21-23 Feb 17 2ème Tour Cycliste International La Provence FRA ME 2.1
22-26 Feb 17 Volta ao Alentejo POR ME 2.1 -> Novo
22 Feb 17 - 01 Mar 17 Le Tour de Langkawi MAS ME 2.HC
23-26 Feb 17 Abu Dhabi Tour UAE ME 2.UWT
25 Feb 17 Faun Environnement - Classic de l'Ardèche Rhône Crussol FRA ME 1.1 -> poke
25 Feb 17 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite BEL ME 1.UWT -> poke
26 Feb 17 Royal Bernard Drome Classic FRA ME 1.1 -> poke
26 Feb 17 Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne BEL ME 1.HC -> poke
27 Feb 17 - 05 Mar 17 La Tropicale Amissa Bongo GAB ME 2.1

ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2016

So as usual February is full of Tours, and we will have also the CN. For CN a good date seems to be 12th of February but open to proposal.
At beginning of the month there are 4 tours in //, so one too much that could be moved after, or not played at all.

In centre of the month I would say skip Costa Rica that has the lowest ranking and move Haut Var as usual. At end of the month, Abu Dhabi sure, Kuurne - Bruxelles too, maybe there is space for Alentejo or Langkawi (or nobody of the two).

The formula 3 +3 +3 for tours in parallel used last year, we can use it again, seems it worked somehow.

Suggestions, criticism or everything else let us know!

I will design as usual italian races.

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Re: February 2017

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:18 pm

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Herald Sun
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Valencia
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Omloop at work, I'll do KBK, Sud Ardeche, Drôme Classic, Haut-Var and Tour Med too

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Re: February 2017

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:28 pm

An early idea about categories and times might be helpful too, but ok, it's early. Categories so that we (I) can still react, if I see something I dislike.
luques wrote:February 2017

01-05 Feb 17 Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana ESP ME 2.1
01-05 Feb 17 Etoile de Bessèges FRA ME 2.1
01-05 Feb 17 Herald Sun Tour AUS ME 2.1




The formula 3 +3 +3 for tours in parallel used last year, we can use it again, seems it worked somehow.

Suggestions, criticism or everything else let us know!
+ Dubai from January.
Why stick with 3+3+3 if 2+2+2+2 might work as well? Or 3+2+2+2? Move as few races as possible.
Kraftsystemrevision! Include the distance!
Basics reform: Give blue a chance!
Don't punish bugusers. We all have to use bugs, since most of them are declared as "features"!

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Re: February 2017

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Jan 16, 2017 5:55 pm

Robyklebt wrote:An early idea about categories and times might be helpful too, but ok, it's early. Categories so that we (I) can still react, if I see something I dislike.
luques wrote:February 2017

01-05 Feb 17 Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana ESP ME 2.1
01-05 Feb 17 Etoile de Bessèges FRA ME 2.1
01-05 Feb 17 Herald Sun Tour AUS ME 2.1




The formula 3 +3 +3 for tours in parallel used last year, we can use it again, seems it worked somehow.

Suggestions, criticism or everything else let us know!
+ Dubai from January.
Why stick with 3+3+3 if 2+2+2+2 might work as well? Or 3+2+2+2? Move as few races as possible.
Why not

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Re: February 2017

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:23 pm

La Mediterraneenne is cancel finally

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Re: February 2017

Post by luques » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:27 am

Pokemon Club wrote:
Robyklebt wrote:An early idea about categories and times might be helpful too, but ok, it's early. Categories so that we (I) can still react, if I see something I dislike.
luques wrote:February 2017

01-05 Feb 17 Volta a la Comunitat Valenciana ESP ME 2.1
01-05 Feb 17 Etoile de Bessèges FRA ME 2.1
01-05 Feb 17 Herald Sun Tour AUS ME 2.1




The formula 3 +3 +3 for tours in parallel used last year, we can use it again, seems it worked somehow.

Suggestions, criticism or everything else let us know!
+ Dubai from January.
Why stick with 3+3+3 if 2+2+2+2 might work as well? Or 3+2+2+2? Move as few races as possible.
Why not
I don't like much the idea. In my opinion giving more tours but less editions will just raise the number of people complaining that the tour is not available at the time they want.

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Re: February 2017

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:32 am

Anyway, with 10 days without any tours, we can definitively put some tours later/before

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Re: February 2017

Post by Novo Banco - PT » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:23 pm

i can do algarve and alentejo

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Re: February 2017

Post by luques » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:30 pm

Novo Banco - PT wrote:i can do algarve and alentejo
Great! ;)

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Re: February 2017

Post by Novo Banco - PT » Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:55 pm

luques wrote:
Novo Banco - PT wrote:i can do algarve and alentejo
Great! ;)
~working at it

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Re: February 2017

Post by Novo Banco - PT » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:09 pm

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Re: February 2017

Post by Rasmussen » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:13 pm

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5th stage should be a mountain top finish according to the Homepage of the race.

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Re: February 2017

Post by Novo Banco - PT » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:57 pm

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5th stage should be a mountain top finish according to the Homepage of the race.
and it's, but it's just 2km climb i went to the homepage, alto do malhão it's just 2km

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Re: February 2017

Post by Novo Banco - PT » Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:59 pm

the alentejo's organization hasn't revealed the profiles yet, i could use the last year's routes but the problem is that last year there were only 5 stages and this year there are 6

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Re: February 2017

Post by Pokemon Club » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:30 am

Novo Banco - PT wrote:the alentejo's organization hasn't revealed the profiles yet, i could use the last year's routes but the problem is that last year there were only 5 stages and this year there are 6
Just wait until the profil out

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Re: February 2017

Post by Coroncina2 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 5:18 pm

Nice to play all real races.
Maybe they are too much and we could do some less important tour next month when we haven't so many tour.
And I don't think do 4 tours in first week and 1 in second is the best decision, maybe better 3+2.
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Re: February 2017

Post by luques » Mon Jan 23, 2017 12:00 am

Coroncina2 wrote:Nice to play all real races.
Maybe they are too much and we could do some less important tour next month when we haven't so many tour.
And I don't think do 4 tours in first week and 1 in second is the best decision, maybe better 3+2.
This is basically the only point, I am not against anyway try for one time this formula. And also Tropicale overlaps for one day with Paris-Nice and with Strade Bianche, so I am for cancelling it.

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Re: February 2017

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Jan 23, 2017 8:13 am

Going to try 3-2-2-2 after all? Cool!
But the times right now somehow not perfect.
10-14-16-18-19-19-21-23-24

Especially the 18-19-19 thing looks weird. IMO the 20-22 time slot should at least get 2, maybe even 3 tours. Ok 2 probably, but including Dubai, that being the "most important" one.

Costa Rica: In the wrong spot and not sure if you can find the profiles. But ok, to calm the tempers of the people who can't live a week without a tour why not. But: NOT category 2. Good example why following the UCI is not a good idea. It's 2.1., yes, but that doesn't make it as important as Bessèges (highly unimportant) etc. It's 2.1 in the America Tour, which in the end is not the same as 2.1 in Europe. Participation will be mostly north/southamerican, no European teams, prestige is around 0. Clear category 1.

Oman-Algarve-Ruta del Sol: Times look better on that one. Although something doesn't fully convince me yet, but can't find a good solution either, thinking

Alentejo: Don't see why it has to start earlier than in reality. Then overlaps with Het Nieuwsblad? So be it.
Then reality allows Haut Var followed by La Provence. At c4f it becomes impossible. Should stay possible. If you move back Haut Var, then move back La Provence too.
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Re: February 2017

Post by Pokemon Club » Mon Jan 23, 2017 3:00 pm

luques wrote:February 2017

12 Feb 17 Trofeo Laigueglia ITA ME 1.HC
12 Feb 17 Clasica de Almeria ESP ME 1.1

22-26 Feb 17 Volta ao Alentejo POR ME 2.1
23-26 Feb 17 Abu Dhabi Tour UAE ME 2.UWT
25 Feb 17 Faun Environnement - Classic de l'Ardèche Rhône Crussol FRA ME 1.1
25 Feb 17 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad Elite BEL ME 1.UWT
26 Feb 17 Royal Bernard Drome Classic FRA ME 1.1
26 Feb 17 Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne BEL ME 1.HC
Well we talk a lot about overlaping tours but not about overlaping one day race. Why don't make 2+2 or 3+2 too or 3+3 ? Why one day race must suffer of the abundance of tours ? Let's overlaping Alentejo, Abu Dhabi, the Belgium opening Week-End and Boucles Drôme-Ardèche if we really want to try it that way.

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Re: February 2017

Post by luques » Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:06 pm

Following advices here and there, some modifications have been made to the calendar that will be online soon. The 4 tours now have all different times, if we don't find Costa Rica for 2nd week Filipinas may enter. Alentejo stays there just as a gift to the portuguese community, Provence and French classics moved forward.

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Re: February 2017

Post by Freudenfeuer » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:14 pm

Algarve just three times????????? Besseges and Herald Sun just two times?????????? Is that realy??ß
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Re: February 2017

Post by luques » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:27 pm

Freudenfeuer wrote:Algarve just three times????????? Besseges and Herald Sun just two times?????????? Is that realy??ß
Yes still some tour to insert but yes, that was the debate of the month. In any case you will have Besseges, Valencia, Herald and (soon) Abu Dhabi so every time is covered.

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