September 2012

Post by **lesossies** » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:24 pm

September 2012
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/ ... er2012.pdf

18.08.2012 - 09.09.2012 VUELTA A ESPAÑA 2012
31.08.2012 - 01.09.2012 Rotterdam-Antwerpen, Antwerpen-Rotterdam (2.1)
02.09.2012 - 02.09.2012 Grote Prijs Jef Scherens - Rondom Leuven (1.1)
02.09.2012 - 02.09.2012 Tour du Doubs - Conseil Général (1.1)
03.09.2012 - 06.09.2012 Giro di Padania (2.1)
05.09.2012 - 05.09.2012 Memorial Rik Van Steenbergen (1.1)
07.09.2012 - 07.09.2012 Quebec
08.09.2012 - 08.09.2012 Parijs-Brussel - Paris-Bruxelles (1.HC)
09.09.2012 - 16.09.2012 Tour of Britain (2.1)
09.09.2012 - 09.09.2012 GP de Fourmies / La Voix du Nord (1.HC)
09.09.2012 - 09.09.2012 Montreal
12.09.2012 - 12.09.2012 Grand Prix de Wallonie (1.1)
15.09.2012 - 17.09.2012 Tour de Hokkaido (2.2)
14.09.2012 - 14.09.2012 Kampioenschap van Vlaanderen (1.1)
14.09.2012 - 14.09.2012 Grand Prix de la Somme «Conseil Général 80» (1.1)
15.09.2012 - 15.09.2012 Franco Ballerini Day (1.1)
15.09.2012 - 15.09.2012 Memorial Marco Pantani (1.1)
16.09.2012 - 16.09.2012 Grand Prix d´Isbergues - Pas de Calais (1.1)
16.09.2012 - 16.09.2012 GP Industria & Commercio di Prato (1.1)
16.09.2012 - 23.09.2012 STRASSEN-WELTMEISTERSCHAFT 2012 IN LIMBURG
19.09.2012 - 19.09.2012 Omloop van het Houtland Lichtervelde (1.1)
26 Sep Milano-Torino Ita 1.HC 2012
27.09.2012 - 30.09.2012 Tour de Wallonie Picarde - Franco-Belge (2.1)
29.09.2012 - 29.09.2012 IL LOMBARDIA
30.09.2012 - 30.09.2012 Giro del Lazio (1.2)
30.09.2012 - 30.09.2012 Duo Normand I (1.1)

2012 ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
2012 NOT ONLINE
NEW VERSION DRAWED
AT WORK
DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2011

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:21 am

Ape "does" Québec and Montréal. Easy just the coordinates to add

Romagna, no race this year I think. So the one from last year one cat down probably makes sense.

Woddeltown Team · Post by **Woddeltown Team** » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:58 pm

Gp Jef Scherens has the same profile as last year

Post by **lesossies** » Wed Aug 22, 2012 11:34 pm

What´s with a germany tour ?
I have one from Woddeltown with a 34km TT and 41km TTT

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:55 am

lesossies wrote:What´s with a germany tour ?
I have one from Woddeltown with a 34km TT and 41km TTT

IMO we dont need an extra tour in september.

Alkworld · Post by **Alkworld** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:31 am

Bear wrote:
lesossies wrote:What´s with a germany tour ?
I have one from Woddeltown with a 34km TT and 41km TTT
IMO we dont need an extra tour in september.

At the moment there's no tour at all between the 18th and the 30th. I think we could use one or three during that time.

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:33 am

Just because we are used to ride a stage race every week?

IMO we need also periodes where the one day races are full of top teams...

AlmavivaItalia · Post by **AlmavivaItalia** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:53 am

Alkworld wrote:
Bear wrote:
lesossies wrote:What´s with a germany tour ?
I have one from Woddeltown with a 34km TT and 41km TTT
IMO we dont need an extra tour in september.
At the moment there's no tour at all between the 18th and the 30th. I think we could use one or three during that time.

Middle Earth Tour? when i complete it? (lowering days)

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:55 am

Same percentages as last year, coordinates added. Like last year, could be designed differently, but finally that's what the ape decided a year ago... no protests, I keep it.

Same deal, same percentages, now with coordinates.

And both races now IMO should be cat 4 this year. Or if leso wants to jump to 5 directly, ok too.

Woddeltown Team · Post by **Woddeltown Team** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 12:19 pm

lesossies wrote:What´s with a germany tour ?
I have one from Woddeltown with a 34km TT and 41km TTT

Did i Miss something?

Must be the onefrom last year, mustn't it?

Alkworld · Post by **Alkworld** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:21 pm

Bear wrote:Just because we are used to ride a stage race every week?

IMO we need also periodes where the one day races are full of top teams...

A few days, no problem, but two weeks without any tours would be a bit much.
Anyway, there seem to be at least two tours in real life and not even with the lowest category (see http://radsport-seite.de/termine-resultate-2012.html):
15.09.-23.09. Tour of China II (CHN) 2.1
27.09.-30.09. Tour de Wallonie Picarde (BEL) 2.1

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:03 pm

Alkworld wrote:
Bear wrote:Just because we are used to ride a stage race every week?

IMO we need also periodes where the one day races are full of top teams...
A few days, no problem, but two weeks without any tours would be a bit much.
Anyway, there seem to be at least two tours in real life and not even with the lowest category (see http://radsport-seite.de/termine-resultate-2012.html):
15.09.-23.09. Tour of China II (CHN) 2.1
27.09.-30.09. Tour de Wallonie Picarde (BEL) 2.1

Dont see the problem with 2 weeks without stage races. But anyway.

China 2 and Wallonie Picarde would be "ok", because they are real races. But a fantasy Germany Tour or another Fantasytour, I dont get that.

Woddeltown Team · Post by **Woddeltown Team** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:24 pm

The question is: why not a fantasy tour? Or a historical Deutschland tour?

http://cyclinglinks.nl/#Sep

Longer tours:
01.09. Iran (5 Days) -> No real discriptions of the tour, only profiles and non-detailed maps
03.09. Giro di Padania (5 Days) -> no information
07.09. Tour of China I (6 Days) -> no information for 2012, some chinese websites are marked as attacking
09.09 Tour of Bulgaria (8 Days) -> No Information
09.09. Tour of Britain (8 Days) -> okay
15.09. Tour of China II (9 Days) -> no information for 2012, some chinese websites are marked as attacking
26.09. Brunei
27.09 Franco Belge
26.09. Avenir

The five marked tours were part of the Calendar C4f 2011 plus Hokkaido and Fantasy Germany.

Brunei = Sprint
Britain = Sprint, Time trial
Franco Belge = Sprint
Padania = Mountain
Hokkaido = Sprint, Time Trial
Avenir = Mountain

In case of not having profiles for Iran, Bulgaria, China und Padania we need a 2nd tour for some mountain riders. Only Avenir is not enough, when we see, that we have four tours for sprinters.
It needn't be Germany, but a 2nd tour longer would be good

In case of having no profiles for Iran, China and

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 5:40 pm

i will do all italian one day Race/Tour...

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:07 pm

No you won't.

You fucked up Emilia and Lombardia last year... you're not doing Emilia again. I will. Ok, that stays in October.... But the same counts for Lombardia.. Ape does it.

Bear · Post by **Bear** » Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:02 pm

Woddeltown Team wrote:The question is: why not a fantasy tour? Or a historical Deutschland tour?

IMO its enough to ride the fantasy tours in offseason, like Anden and DecemberTour. And like I mentioned before, I think the one day races deserve to have more competition...

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:15 am

I'll try Fourmies and Wallonie next.

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 1:55 pm

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:49 pm

Wallonie no details yet... so forget that for the moment.

I'll do Vlaanderen thingy instead, looks easy

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:55 pm

Pavé only * from this year on. It's 600 meters according to the site, 650 my measurement. Then street view tells me... easy stuff. Nowhere close to the *** we had. If it was a full Km could be **, maybe, maybe, IMO not really, still rather *, but ok. Only 600-650 meters? Clear *.
Couldn't find any info about the 2 intermediates in Pittem either, so mercilessly cut them and threw them in the garbage bag. Wrong one it seems, my wife scolded me and told me intermediates clearly belonged in the pink bag, not the green one, orange one, ok, she could understand if I made a mistake there, but green? Japanese garbage disposal regulations are complicated.

Pretty much a shit race anyway, the winner gets a Lion jersey, pff, we like our Banana jerseys!

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:42 pm

Will do GP de la Somme next

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sun Aug 26, 2012 2:43 pm

1x 6 at 155 otherwise max 5

Post by **lesossies** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:00 am

calendar preview has been updated.

Fourmies Kat4 at 10.09 instead 09.09 ?

The Hokkaido route is online, I could try to design it.

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:29 am

IMO no reason to change the date.
So we have 2 cat 4 races on the same day... no problem, just don't make it 6 editions each.

Other question. Parix Bruxelles is blue in the first post, means done... but not online... is it done or not?

Radunion · Post by **Radunion** » Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:02 pm

Usually I am just happy that I do not have to interfere in the process of designing races and planning the calendar, but the new preview is very strange. Is it really such a big problem to have a week without tour? And why change the date of the real world championships for a fantasy tour? Furthermore is there any good reason to ride Hokkaido I am not aware of? For me it seems to be a very unimportant tour.

In my opinion the best situation would be best situation from mid January to mid October would be to ride all tours where in real life the best teams are allowed to start (cat 2.1 and higher, maybe minus some races in Asia where no top team ever shows up). If there is a week without a tour just be happy to have some interesting one day races

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