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April 2012

Post by olmania » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:04 pm

01 Apr Flèche d'Emeraude - Saint Malo Fra 1.1 2012
01 Apr Grand Prix de la Ville de Nogent-sur-Oise Fra 1.2 2011
01-06 Apr Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn's Cup Tour of Thailand Tha 2.2 -
01 Apr Ronde van Vlaanderen / Tour des Flandres Bel WT 2012
01 Apr Tour de India II (at City of Nasik) Ind 1.1 2012POSTPONED
01 Apr Trofeo Piva Banca Popolare di Vicenza (Ciclonews.it) Ita 1.2U 2012
02-07 Apr Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco / Euskal Herriko txirrindulari itzulia Esp WT 2012
03-06 Apr Circuit Cycliste Sarthe - Pays de la Loire Fra 2.1 2012
03 Apr Les challenges Phosphatiers-Challenge Khouribga (Votrecourse.com) Mar 1.2 2011
04-08 Apr Grand Prix of Sochi Rus 2.2 2011
04 Apr Scheldeprijs Bel 1.HC 2012
04 Apr Les challenges Phosphatiers-Challenge Youssoufia Mar 1.2 -
05 Apr Grand Prix Pino Cerami Bel 1.1 2012
05 Apr Les challenges Phosphatiers-Challenge Ben Guerir Mar 1.2 -
06-08 Apr Circuit des Ardennes International Fra 2.2 2012
07 Apr Ronde van Vlaanderen voor beloften / Tour des Flandres Espoirs) Bel 1.Ncup 2012
08 Apr Klasika Primavera de Amorebieta Esp 1.1 2012
08 Apr Paris - Roubaix Fra WT 2011
09 Apr Dwars door het Hageland Bel 1.2 2012
09 Apr Giro del Belvedere di Villa di Cordignano Ita 1.2U 2012
09 Apr Rund um Köln Ger 1.1 2012
10 Apr GP Palio del Recioto Ita 1.2U 2012
10 Apr Paris-Camembert Fra 1.1 2011
11 Apr De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne Bel 1.HC 2012
11 Apr La Côte Picarde (Alarrivee.be) Fra 1.Ncup -
11-15 Apr Tour du Loir-et-Cher 'E. Provost' Fra 2.2 2012
11-15 Apr Volta Ciclistica Internacional de Gravatai Bra 2.2 2011
12 Apr GP de Denain Porte du Hainaut Fra 1.1 2012
13-15 Apr Vuelta a Castilla y Leon Esp 2.1 2012
14-17 Apr Tour of the Philippines / Padyak Pinoy Phi 2.2 2012
14 Apr Liège - Bastogne - Liège (espoirs) Bel 1.2U 2011
14 Apr Tour du Finistère Fra 1.1 2012
14 Apr Trofeo Edil C Ita 1.2 2012
14 Apr ZLM tour Ned 1.Ncup 2012
15 Apr Amstel Gold Race Ned WT 2012
15 Apr Giro dell'Appennino Ita 1.1 2012
15 Apr Grand Prix of Donetsk / Гран-при Донецка Ukr 1.2 2012
15 Apr Tour of the Battenkill Usa 1.2 2012
15 Apr Tro-Bro Léon Fra 1.1 2012
15 Apr Zellik - Galmaarden Bel 1.2 2012
17-20 Apr Giro del Trentino Ita 2.1 2012
17-21 Apr Toscana - Terra di ciclismo - Coppa delle Nazioni Ita 2.Ncup 2011
18-22 Apr Grand Prix of Adygeya (Fvsr.ru) Rus 2.2 2011
18 Apr La Flèche Wallonne Bel WT 2011
18-22 Apr Tour de Santa Catarina (Ciclismosc.com.br) Bra 2.2 2011
21 Apr Arno Wallaard Memorial Ned 1.2 2011
21 Apr Banja Luka-Belgrade I / Banja Luka - Beograd I Bih 1.2 2011
21 Apr Gran Premio Llodio Esp 1.1 2011
22 Apr Banja Luka-Belgrade II / Banjaluka - Beograd II (PDF) (Bss.rs) Srb 1.2 2011
22 Apr Int. Ronde van Noord-Holland Ned 1.2 2011
22 Apr Liège - Bastogne - Liège Bel WT
22 Apr Melaka Chief Minister Cup / Jelajah Piala Gabenor Melaka / Malacca Chief Minister Cup (Pulsemediacommunications.blogspot.com) Mas 1.2
22-29 Apr Presidential Cycling Tour / Presidential Tour of Turkey / Cumhurbaşkanlığı Uluslararası Türkiye Bisiklet Turu Tur 2.HC 2012
22-29 Apr Tour de Korea Kor 2.2 2011
22 Apr Val d'Ille U Classic 35 - Souvenir Julien Ditlecadet Fra 1.2 2011
22 Apr Vuelta Ciclista a la Rioja Esp 1.1 2012
24-29 Apr La Tropicale Amissa Bongo (Tabo) Gab 2.1 2012
24-29 Apr Tour de Romandie Sui WT 2012
25 Apr Gran Premio della Liberazione Ita 1.2U 2011
25 Apr-01 May Le Tour de Bretagne Cycliste - Trophée des Granitiers Fra 2.2 2012
26 Apr-01 May Giro delle Regioni Ita 2.2U 2010
26-30 Apr Vuelta Asturias Julio Alvarez Mendo Esp 2.1 2011
27 Apr-01 May Tour of Borneo Mas 2.2 2012
28 Apr GP Industria & Artigianato- Larciano Ita 1.1 2011
28 Apr Grand Prix Herning Den 1.1 2011
29 Apr Giro della Toscana Ita 1.1 2011
29 Apr GP Industrie del Marmo Ita 1.2 2010
29 Apr Himmerland Rundt Den 1.2 2011
29 Apr Paris - Mantes-en-Yvelines Fra 1.2 2012
29 Apr Rutland - Melton International CiCLE Classic Gbr 1.2 2011
29 Apr Trophée des Grimpeurs Polymultipliée Fra 1.1 -

2012 ONLINE, MUST BE DRAWED OR CHECKED(WHEN PROFILE STILL THE SAME)
2012 NOT ONLINE
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DELETE OR POSTPONED
SAME TRACK AS 2011

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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:43 am

03/04 : Flèche d'émeraude, same profile than last year. ;)

10/04 : Paris-Camembert, should be the same profile as well. Check this in 2 weeks just in case.

I know that's not the most famous race in April, but profiles are interesting. Not a bad tour without TT for 8 stages.
KOM and IS and not available yet. 4sprint days, 1 mountain stage, 3 Middle mountain stages.

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Flat stage to start.
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2nd flat stage.
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King stage ! Summit is a dirty road (*) !
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7/7/5 + downhill, climbers could be here again ...
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-5 to finish. 5% few kms before. Probably some surprises ...
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3% to finish, sieb possible few kms before
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Flat, I remember 1 or 2 years ago they did a hilly and cobbled circuit in Instambul or somewhere else to finish this tour ... not this time !

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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:30 pm

Another "crap tour" but profiles were available, and if you want to make a low division tour in April, seems interesting ! ;)

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The three first stages are really easy and short. So we could use 2 in 1 day, make them half stages (st2&3 should be good, short stages) => a 3 days tour.
Last stage is really hilly and interesting, that's the best part of this tour ! :D
I added some KOM (too much in last stage ?) to make it interesting for red jersey. They used to ride this tour with 5riders/team, I changed it to 8 (I can change it again if it's needed).

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Re: April 2012

Post by Rockstar Inc » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:30 pm

olmania wrote:I added some KOM (too much in last stage ?) to make it interesting for red jersey. They used to ride this tour with 5riders/team, I changed it to 8 (I can change it again if it's needed).
even for a low-div tour i think inventing intermediates isn't so good at all...

but i guess it's a good idea to ride this tour in the lower divs
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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:20 pm

Team Franconia wrote:
olmania wrote:I added some KOM (too much in last stage ?) to make it interesting for red jersey. They used to ride this tour with 5riders/team, I changed it to 8 (I can change it again if it's needed).
even for a low-div tour i think inventing intermediates isn't so good at all...

but i guess it's a good idea to ride this tour in the lower divs
You're right, but
Actually that's not " 100% invented" because in the details they say there is a Climber jersey and they give details about the points given at the summits. But the places of the KOM are not specified ... that's why I decided to put it like this. But if they add the details later, I'll change it to make it 100% real. Seems ok explained like that ?

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Re: April 2012

Post by Rockstar Inc » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:28 pm

olmania wrote:
Team Franconia wrote:
olmania wrote:I added some KOM (too much in last stage ?) to make it interesting for red jersey. They used to ride this tour with 5riders/team, I changed it to 8 (I can change it again if it's needed).
even for a low-div tour i think inventing intermediates isn't so good at all...

but i guess it's a good idea to ride this tour in the lower divs
You're right, but
Actually that's not " 100% invented" because in the details they say there is a Climber jersey and they give details about the points given at the summits. But the places of the KOM are not specified ... that's why I decided to put it like this. But if they add the details later, I'll change it to make it 100% real. Seems ok explained like that ?
100% ok :D
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Re: April 2012

Post by NoPikouze » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:13 pm

I bet some teams will complain that they wanted to ride this and that it's unfair to forbid it for top divisions.
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Re: April 2012

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:42 pm

5 riders per teams could be funny

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Re: April 2012

Post by flockmastoR » Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:44 pm

Pokemon Club wrote:5 riders per teams could be funny
hm why not just leave it as it is (no half stages) and cut the riders to 6 (or 7) ? This half stage races are always very confusion, especially for new managers.
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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:22 pm

flockmastoR wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:5 riders per teams could be funny
hm why not just leave it as it is (no half stages) and cut the riders to 6 (or 7) ? This half stage races are always very confusion, especially for new managers.
Ok, why not ... but no risk of new teams buying 6riders, strong, only for this tour ?
Anyway, I'm waiting for leso opinion, and I change it if necessary (not even sure he wants it in the calendar :lol: )

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Re: April 2012

Post by Pokemon Club » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:54 pm

olmania wrote:
flockmastoR wrote:
Pokemon Club wrote:5 riders per teams could be funny
hm why not just leave it as it is (no half stages) and cut the riders to 6 (or 7) ? This half stage races are always very confusion, especially for new managers.
Ok, why not ... but no risk of new teams buying 6riders, strong, only for this tour ?
Anyway, I'm waiting for leso opinion, and I change it if necessary (not even sure he wants it in the calendar :lol: )
No problem with that, new teams don't start with SM team bank account :lol:
And maybe let a 4 days tours is good

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Re: April 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:20 am

if i good remember, every team should be minimal 9 riders to inscript for a race,
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Re: April 2012

Post by flockmastoR » Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:15 am

auxilium torino wrote:if i good remember, every team should be minimal 9 riders to inscript for a race,
Yeah this should be, dont know if its reality
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Re: April 2012

Post by Bambel » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:51 pm

flockmastoR wrote:
auxilium torino wrote:if i good remember, every team should be minimal 9 riders to inscript for a race,
Yeah this should be, dont know if its reality
It still is :)

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Re: April 2012

Post by auxilium torino » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:12 pm

Thanks, and is good so, very good! :D
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Post by sylvainmeteo » Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:05 pm

no PDF calendar yet?
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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:46 am

Circuit de la Sarthe is done. Stages 2b (TT) and 3 (hilly, but flat circuit) are the same than last year. ;)

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Re: April 2012

Post by lesossies » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:32 am

PDF Preview online
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Re: April 2012

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:34 am

Schelde cat 4 and on the wednesday.
Brabant is HC this year, could become cat 4 too. Looking at the winners list in the last year, I'd say give it 4 directly, but if you prefer 3, wait another year and see ok too.
Primavera parallel to Roubaix, not Appennino.
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Post by Woddeltown Team » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:27 pm

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Rund Um Köln 2012

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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:03 pm

An other not major tour, but profiles are interesting !
I think I did some mistakes in the first stage (but it does not change the race spirit) and probably in the circuit in other stages due to the lack of details. But this should be ok. ;)

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Re: April 2012

Post by olmania » Sun Mar 18, 2012 1:36 am

29/04
In // to the main race, you could put this one :
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ps: the ape: Romandie for you ?
ps2 : leso : I guess you don't want the Borneo Tour ? Enough crap tours for april ? :lol:

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Re: April 2012

Post by Quick » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:11 pm

I demand Classic-Race-Design-Ban for Aux. Why? Mostly because of "milanosanremo" in our Palmares. Even "Red Mountain" or "Rund um den Misthaufen" looks better. Actually EVERYTHING looks better. MSR is the only thing in my Palmares, where we have no capital letters or space between words. So, as small "punishment" dont allow him to design "rondevanvlaanderen", "amstelgoldrace", etc, etc...
These are only a few races...so no big thing.
Encore, i dont really trust Aux' designs and the mintact at MSR was horrible too.
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Re: April 2012

Post by el Galactico » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:31 am

Quick wrote:I demand Classic-Race-Design-Ban for Aux. Why? Mostly because of "milanosanremo" in our Palmares. Even "Red Mountain" or "Rund um den Misthaufen" looks better. Actually EVERYTHING looks better. MSR is the only thing in my Palmares, where we have no capital letters or space between words. So, as small "punishment" dont allow him to design "rondevanvlaanderen", "amstelgoldrace", etc, etc...
These are only a few races...so no big thing.
Encore, i dont really trust Aux' designs and the mintact at MSR was horrible too.
Right. Absolutely right. And wasn't he the guy who always complained about races had different names as in the years before?
I don't see that his MSR is linked to the palmares of the past few years.

So I hope PR , RVV and the rest later on are for the ape and Gaurain.
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