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October 2026

Races to be designed:
Tour de Langkawi >>> Zappes
Tour of Guangxi
Tour des Paves >>> Schartner

Races to be checked:
Münsterland Giro >>> Zappes
Giro dell'Emilia
Coppa Agostoni - Giro delle Brianze
Tour de Vendée
Coppa Bernocchi
Tre Valli Varesine
Binche - Chimay - Binche / Mémorial Frank Vandenbroucke
Gran Piemonte
Il Lombardia
Paris - Tours Elite
Trofeo Tessile e Moda
Giro del Veneto
Utsunomiya Japan Cup Road Race
Veneto Classic
Chrono des Nations



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Noting I have seen the Eneco-Thread.

Open for discussion how to split between Guangxi / Eneco. 3 / 1 sounds reasonable but could be different and I'm not sure about times. Any suggestions welcome.

My proposal for Guangxi / Eneco—with a preference for designing the Eneco Tour (it’s been a while, though I’m happy to design other races too if I find it easy enough)—is as follows: 9:00 Guangxi, 15:00 Guangxi, 18:00 Eneco, and 21:00 Guangxi.

October is NC month i would say like 22th to 24th would be a good date

A new proposal for Guangxi/Eneco: 9:00 Guangxi, 10:00 Eneco, 15:00 (14:00/16:00) Guangxi, 18:00 Eneco (17:00/19:00), and 21:00 (20:00/22:00) Guangxi. I think Eneco deserves two editions. It’s a fun race where, with only five riders, there is less control.

H 22 must be in. Last days I've discussed with many late night players and h22 Is in general our favorite time. H23 close Doors to players that must work early, h21 some of us work/dinner h21 voters usually can play also h20, h22 ones have only 1 slot

21 h is okay for me, but too often early evening is used for a lower level tour. It would be nice to mix it up a little more. It could be morning, afternoon or late night as well. 22 h or later is a problem for people starting the day early.

Radunion wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:15 pm

21 h is okay for me, but too often early evening is used for a lower level tour. It would be nice to mix it up a little more. It could be morning, afternoon or late night as well. 22 h or later is a problem for people starting the day early.

true. but latest version at 21h is a problem for people getting home late as well. It's always about balancing. Last month I can remember having exactly this complain (too little of the evening playable for late evening guys)

flockmastoR wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:57 pm

Radunion wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:15 pm

21 h is okay for me, but too often early evening is used for a lower level tour. It would be nice to mix it up a little more. It could be morning, afternoon or late night as well. 22 h or later is a problem for people starting the day early.

true. but latest version at 21h is a problem for people getting home late as well. It's always about balancing. Last month I can remember having exactly this complain (too little of the evening playable for late evening guys)

That is not the point I want to make. The point is that there is a tendency to alternate races. So if the more important race has more edition almost every time the night gets the more important race. If there are many editions there is an early evening edition but very rarely 19 or 20 h, times that are popular. In the current case following the demand for late evening and going for alternating would disadvantage the evening, again. So why not give the Dutch thing to the late night, or if you do 5 editions in total, to the early evening?

Radunion wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 23, 2026 8:59 pm

flockmastoR wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:57 pm

Radunion wrote: ↑

Wed Sep 23, 2026 3:15 pm

21 h is okay for me, but too often early evening is used for a lower level tour. It would be nice to mix it up a little more. It could be morning, afternoon or late night as well. 22 h or later is a problem for people starting the day early.

true. but latest version at 21h is a problem for people getting home late as well. It's always about balancing. Last month I can remember having exactly this complain (too little of the evening playable for late evening guys)

That is not the point I want to make. The point is that there is a tendency to alternate races. So if the more important race has more edition almost every time the night gets the more important race. If there are many editions there is an early evening edition but very rarely 19 or 20 h, times that are popular. In the current case following the demand for late evening and going for alternating would disadvantage the evening, again. So why not give the Dutch thing to the late night, or if you do 5 editions in total, to the early evening?

A player that can play h20 usually can play also h21 - h22 (in this case 90 minute x stage stage ends usually at 23:30)
I remember we talked about that during montreal classic and we both agree h23 is bad as 90% of the group that day seems agree

I don't think fight about this is a "thing" for me the most important slots are h19 and h22 and should always be both present just would avoid to mix late evening with night bc I see a lot of evening players play at night when other groups are "hard" while a lot of night player can only play at night so there is already a big disadvantage for the players of this field