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April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:23 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Final PDF
April 2025

Races to be designed:
Itzulia Basque Country >>> OL
Giro d Abbruzzo
Tour of the Alps >>> ECS
Tour de Romandie

Races to be checked:
Dwars door Vlaanderen >>> Gip
Paris - Camembert >>> OL
La Route Adélie de VItré >>> OL
Gran Premio Miguel Indurain >>> Gip
Volta Limburg Classic >>> Gip
Ronde van Vlaanderen >>> Gip
Scheldeprijs >>> Gip
Paris-Roubaix >>> Gip
Ronde van Limburg >>> Gip
Classic Grand Besançon Doubs >>> OL
De Brabantse Pijl - La Flèche Brabançonne >>> Gip
Tour du Jura Cycliste >>> OL
Amstel Gold Race >>> Gip
Tour du Doubs >>> OL
La Flèche Wallonne >>> RKL
Liège-Bastogne-Liège >>> Gip

Legend
BLUE = Designer found
GREEN = DONE

Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:52 pm
by olmania
I can design Basque and tour of the Alps already.
Also Romandie if details are online when I have time.

Will check the french one day races (except Roubaix)

Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:41 pm
by Tukhtahuaev
olmania wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 7:52 pm
I can design Basque and tour of the Alps already.
Also Romandie if details are online when I have time.

Will check the french one day races (except Roubaix)
I could also take over one of those tours if needed

Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 9:33 pm
by ECS Cycling
I can also do the Tour of the Alps/Giro d'Abbruzzo

Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:33 pm
by olmania
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Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:44 pm
by olmania
Camembert : same as last year, remove the first 6 kms to have the good amount of kms (as this year, there are the details about where the real start is)

Vitré : should be the same; no reason that they change the circuits.

Besançon : no details yet, but the last key 4kms should be the same. so, old profile can be added in preview; if they change the circuit before, I will design it, but the end should remain the same as past years.

Jura : no details yet, but same as Besançon, only info available, last kms should be similar. can be put into the preview with last year profile as of now.

Doubs : might be different, info will be available on the 25th, I will check that then. ;)

Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:51 pm
by Radunion
Not much to complain about the calendar this month. Maybe we can ride the Volta NXT classic two days later on the 7th. Apart from that, I am fine with no parallel tours to monuments and Basque. So for once I will not argue for additional tours.
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Re: April 2025

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:32 am
by Gipfelstuermer
Radunion wrote:
Wed Mar 12, 2025 11:51 pm
Not much to complain about the calendar this month.
Motto "Nicht geschimpft ist Lob genug."

Volta NXT (stupid name change) can be added of course.

Re: April 2025

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:54 am
by Radunion
Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:32 am
Motto "Nicht geschimpft ist Lob genug."
Sorry, you should have seen me grinning while writing it. I know I can be annoying from time to time, so thanks for all the work everybody does to make the race calendar possible.

Re: April 2025

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:35 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
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Change in sectors 27-23:

Out:
Vielsy à Briastre
Capelle-sur-Ecaillon à Le Buat
Rue du Tapage

In:
Artres à Famars (+, 1200 m) >>> becomes -1*
Querenaing à Artres (++, 1200 m) >>> becomes -1**
Verchain-Maugré à Querenaing (+++, 2000 m) >>> becomes 0*** 1***
Saint-Python (++, 1500 m) >>> becomes 2** 2**

Open for discussion. Last 22 sectors remain the same.

Re: April 2025

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:43 pm
by ECS Cycling
Tour of the Alps is done:
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Re: April 2025

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:22 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
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Route/circuits changed. Very very annoying to design.

Orenberg 6
Bemelerberg 5
Gulperberg 2 5 3
Loorberg 6
Bergenhuizen 5

Re: April 2025

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:23 pm
by Tukhtahuaev
ECS Cycling wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:43 pm
Tour of the Alps is done:
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Could you please check if circuit for stage 2 is correct? Telves di Sopra is different the 2nd time

Re: April 2025

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2025 9:05 pm
by ECS Cycling
Tukhtahuaev wrote:
Fri Mar 14, 2025 4:23 pm
ECS Cycling wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:43 pm
Tour of the Alps is done:
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Could you please check if circuit for stage 2 is correct? Telves di Sopra is different the 2nd time
Fixed

Re: April 2025

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 3:52 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
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Minimal changes to circuit, same difficulties, grrr.

Re: April 2025

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 4:33 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
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New finale in Amstel 2025, with Cauberg returning.

Last 5km become: -4 -3 +6 +1 -1 - with the last three kilometers identical with the Cauberg section in the middle of race.

Up for discussion as that Cauberg sieb changes the nature of the race quite a bit (as it might in real life, too).

Re: April 2025

Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:53 pm
by Bugatti
The start times for the morning look quite good. It was also confirmed today at the 8h race that 8h suits many teams well.

Black-Star(08:05): 8h is a nice time
RV Allagen(08:05): Und der Klassiker halt, dass immer 2-3 Teams mit 9 oder 10 Uhr als Start rechnen und off sind
Alkworld(08:03): bisschen zu früh für mich ... überlappt mit der Schule
RV Allagen(08:03): 8 Uhr ist super 😉
Dreizehn(08:01): Ja 8 Uhr ist top
SouthWest Packers(07:59): Hi
Bugatti(07:59): 8 Uhr ungewöhnlich, aber gute Zeit, gerne öfter :)

Re: April 2025

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2025 3:39 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
No controversies, so Final PDF is there.

Tiny changes:

- Volta Limburg Classic added. It used to be parallel to GP Indurain, but postponing it because it makes Itzulia parallel programme more interesting and it was a pain to design, so would be a shame if there were only two editions
- Will try 8h and 10h once in parallel, but actually I noticed there are only few opportunities for this, because it only makes sense on weekdays without parallel races.

Re: April 2025

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 3:11 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
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New first loop... grrr.... 56km instead of 52km, no change otherwise.

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Same as last two years.


Tomorrow I will publish all real races until 13th April, unless there are any objections. Mostly to put pressure on r TAKA to plan more fantasy races ;)

Re: April 2025

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:22 pm
by Robyklebt
Btw, I'm not too happy with the early final PDF, if it says 25th or around 25th then sometimes people might wait a bit longer for their comments. NOt the case this month for me, but could have been.

Re: April 2025

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 10:15 pm
by Gipfelstuermer
Early or late final PDF... never ideal... but I don't always have time every day, so can't promise being online every 25th and so will need to live with both things (early/late) happening... that's why it says ingame:
Final PDF (available around ~25th of previous month)

Re: April 2025

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2025 8:21 pm
by olmania
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Re: April 2025

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:02 pm
by Robyklebt
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Done. New start as usual, the final circuit the same as 2023, so just copied that. Mintact km 168 of 205, Mur de Huy passage.

Hope didn't forget anything...

Re: April 2025

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2025 10:32 pm
by olmania
Update :
Besançon classic is exactly the same as past year; old profile can be uploaded.
Tour du Jura has the exact same finish, but the loop before is a little different. I will redesign it if time. But old profile can be published as of now (for forms purpose), as the loop change won't affect the race favorites and spirit. ;)

Re: April 2025

Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2025 6:26 pm
by Robyklebt
Giro d'Abruzzo

It's not "former Giro di Sicilia". Yes, RCS substituted the Giro di Sicilia with the Giro d'Abruzzo, presumably the local organization in Sicily had some problems, sponsors most likely, whatever, no clue. So they went to Abruzzo and found people with enough money to organize their race, not the Giro di Sicilia, but the Giro d'Abruzzo there. But it's not the same race, it's not just a different name, it's a different race all together. Both revived, one died again. So the "event" should not be Giro di Sicilia either. It's just not the same race. Like the Tour of Guanxi is not the "former Tour de Beijing". Maybe the same organizer, but completely different part of the country.