April 2024

[Robyklebt]

Giro dell Abruzzo with "Giro di Sicilia" event. It's its replacement, but not the same thing!

[Robyklebt]

Flèche done. Final circuit only Côte d'Ereffe and Mur de Huy. Due to the circuit 200 km long, instead of 198 as in reality. Mintact at km 168, Mur de Huy.

Liège, wanted to do that until today, but didn't have time yesterday, when I planned to do it. Tomorrow rather unlikely, so Liège will most probably be Monday. Still 2 weeks to go, so should be early enough.

Ah, that Citta metropolitana di Reggio Calabria has been cancelled, possibly postponed, they seem to consider trying in June or July again, forgot already.

[Robyklebt]

Another comment about Abruzzo:

Prati di Tivo IMO is not really correct as it is. We finish 30 something meters too low. Use "climb detail" on the Giro site for stage 8, same climb. Usually the Giro site is very reliable for those profiles. All in 500 meter steps, so need some calculation for the whole km, but even I usually can do that

https://www.giroditalia.it/en/tappe/sta ... i-di-tivo/

The way I see it should be something like: first 5 km all 7 (the second km is 6.5, but since the first 4,5 km have an average of 7.1% having it all 7 makes more sense than making one a 6) then 5 8 8 6* 8 7 7 7 7. That's 14 km. The 6* is 6.5 again... Last 600m then 6.8.
In reality goes up 1026 meters, at c4f right now 990. The numbers above without the last 600m 980. Last km then a 5 to end at the right altitude (if we start the climb 10 meters lower, 424 the profile says, 430 for us) OR what IMO would be better, another 7, end up 20 meters too high, 1470, 20 meters higher than reality, 1450, 50 meters higher than the version now, 1420-. but have the exact 7% average the climb has in reality.

[Hansa]

Good updates, profiles look good !
Now that the details are available on flamme rouge and that I can see it in the calendar preview, that's easier to see what the climbs look like.
I'd personnally make the first two stages more sprinter friendly (with a 5% max instead of 6% in the last climb of each stage; or at least the first one, unsure about the second one); but I guess that's a personnal view of the design and about the possible IRL outcome of the stage. So leaving it as it is (a 6%) is also ok.

would agree with making it more sprint friendly, on la flamme rouge i fouund 1.1 km at 5.5% for stage 1 rounded to 6 might be right but in my opinion it might not be in the spirit of the profile,

[Robyklebt]

For some reason I can't find the Liège profile from 23? It seems to work with other stuff, that new "search profile thing" but LBL no. Nothing appearing... what do I have to input? Tried Liège, Liege, Bastogne, Doyenne... nothing happening.

[lennylenny]

For some reason I can't find the Liège profile from 23? It seems to work with other stuff, that new "search profile thing" but LBL no. Nothing appearing... what do I have to input? Tried Liège, Liege, Bastogne, Doyenne... nothing happening.

try lbl23 ^^

[Robyklebt]

Thanks.. how to remember the profile code.. lbl it was, ok ok.

But too tired today.

[Robyklebt]

Now that I found it.... I can't copy stuff out of it. Load, ok, could change the top stuff, description, nation etc, but nothing in the profile. Worked for the Flèche a few days ago, not sure if it stopped working or if I have a "Donkey-moment" and do something wrong.

[Gipfelstuermer]

Now that I found it.... I can't copy stuff out of it. Load, ok, could change the top stuff, description, nation etc, but nothing in the profile. Worked for the Flèche a few days ago, not sure if it stopped working or if I have a "Donkey-moment" and do something wrong.

When I check, everything seems OK for you to edit "lbl24" which I guess is the right profile?

[Robyklebt]

Yes, that's the one I'm designing now... but wanted to copy stuff from lbl23, that somehow doesn't work. It worked for Sanremo, after you gave me access I think. This here of course was wrong:

Worked for the Flèche a few days ago, not sure if it stopped working or if I have a "Donkey-moment" and do something wrong.

Didn't copy anything from the old profile, just tried the search which worked and thought aha.

>>> Search Profile (to find archived races / working for you already)
>>> Clone Profile (to clone the old profile and then edit it / working for you already)
>>> Change Designer (to become designer if someone else was the designer of that archive race / not even working for admins so far)

Ok, remembered this post wrong as well. But how do you CLONE designs? Looking at it again now, and I'm kind of lost... what buttons?
Btw, don't completely understand the last point either. That's after cloning you don't get access either?

Anyway, not hanging around longer today, will finish tomorrow

[Gipfelstuermer]

Yes, that's the one I'm designing now... but wanted to copy stuff from lbl23, that somehow doesn't work. It worked for Sanremo, after you gave me access I think. This here of course was wrong:

Sanremo and LBL two different cases:
1) Sanremo23 was on the old server, so I copied it on the new server and made you the designer
2) Lbl23 is on the new server (switch happened between March/April 23), so you can search & clone the profile yourself.

Once you have searched and cloned (and saved) it, you can copy&paste from there.

The buttons are:
1.) Search Profile
2.) Clone Profile
3.) Save

Let me know if it doesn't work.

Let me know oif

[Robyklebt]

The button "clone profile" simply never appears on any of the archived profiles

[Gipfelstuermer]

The button "clone profile" simply never appears on any of the archived profiles

Argh... admin mistake that it only appears for admins but should appear for everyone...

I manually copied lbl23 for you (name lbl23for24), so you can use that now.

And will try to fix that so everyone has the Clone Profile Button...

[Robyklebt]

Thanks, will do it once I'm home.

[Robyklebt]

Liège done, finally. Changes before the Côte de Wanne. Changed that too, from 4 -3 5 11 to 5 -2 7 9, there is a steep km, but it's kind of in the middle, before and after it's a bit less. But still 2 km at over 6% for sure, so better to have 2km over that in c4f too. Otherwise no changes.

Mintact 224

[Robyklebt]

Checked Famenne:
Nothing on la flamme rouge yet, on their website the route is there.
Same as 2023, with one exception. Cote de Warisy out, Cote de Waharday in. So the copy and paste thing might be useful again, could do it, but well, would need the 2023. it says designer Gipfel too, so would have to be by hand...

[Gipfelstuermer]

Checked Famenne:
Nothing on la flamme rouge yet, on their website the route is there.
Same as 2023, with one exception. Cote de Warisy out, Cote de Waharday in. So the copy and paste thing might be useful again, could do it, but well, would need the 2023. it says designer Gipfel too, so would have to be by hand...

Saw the same and was lazy waiting for flamme rouge to have the gpx for Cote de Waharday. So if you have time before that, perfect. Assigned in same way as lbl to you. Profile called famenne23for24.

[Robyklebt]

Kept the profile id famenne23for24, hope that's ok
Added the Waharday, changed the côte de Roy as well, 3 5 5 now, no more siebkm.

[olmania]

(it's a circuit, but I have no time to do it properly; at least I made the % of climbs the same each lap)








(also a circuit, also no time to make it perfect; but at least the main climb as similar % each lap : 5/2/3; the only sprinters stage of this Romandie tour)

[cataracs]

(it's a circuit, but I have no time to do it properly; at least I made the % of climbs the same each lap)








(also a circuit, also no time to make it perfect; but at least the main climb as similar % each lap : 5/2/3; the only sprinters stage of this Romandie tour)

Something's wrong with the altitude in the final climbs in stage3 and stage5. Should be higher a little?

[olmania]

Hill top finishes are at 1060m and 1315m altitude; looks good for me here.
Or do you mean, the max alt of the graph ? Which is currently 200m; you'd like it higher ? why ?

[cataracs]

I mean those climbs should have higher pourcentages

[olmania]

I mean those climbs should have higher pourcentages

I made a km by km design with the flamme rouge automatic graph compared to a manual design on alltrails. always possible to change a % with a +1/-1% depends on the interpretation of the road incline and the km change; but I think the % are quite accurate and make sense that way.
Les marecottes is short and steep.
Leysin is longer, but less steep.