Ok, then this:
Second part of June, second part of September are 2 "tourless" empty spots in the UCI calendar. National Championships and World Championships (although I think this year the WC is earlier, in August. So the September hole might not be there this time, maybe we get an August hole?). Everybody that follows cycling OR just pays attention at c4f knows that. What to do? Can be discussed. But ideally not in early June for June and in early September for September. If some day we come to the conclusion that yes, we want some tours there, then I would prefer some in season fantasy tours to weird real tours moved from other places. But like now doesn't bother me all that much either. So I have to spend 2 weeks without any tours twice a year? The horror. I get to ride 1 day races with better participation? The horror!!!!
Some of the stuff that you can read in the chat is simply ridiculous. From things everybody that has ever had anything to do with the calendar, yes, tours or even just more races gives you more active managers, but more races (incl. more tours) give you less interesting races, smaller groups. The difficult thing is to find the balance. We know that, it's funny to see somebody like Claw how seems to have trouble with very simply concepts, loudly trying to teach anybody ever involved with the calendar his amazing discovery. Dude, get a clue, I knew that when I was calendar assistant (That calendar planner thing I get in my profile (think got it AFTER I stopped...) should be taken off... still there just checked...), I'm pretty sure Gipfel knows that too. Or Unterhund who shows up saying that he put his form on one Tour without checking, now that tour isn't offered at the time he wanted, so somehow it's the calendars fault? As I said, the chat is ridiculous.
PLUS there's time to discuss the specifics of a certain month after Gipfel posts the first preview. Seems to be like it was before, on the 15th. (he can change that if he wants of course). Then he seems to try to post the final PDF on the 25th, as before, he's more punctual than Donks/Luques were most of the time so far. Interestingly enough then often it's AFTER the 25th that people want to discuss the calendar of the following month. (that didn't change) People. try using common sense, if there is a 10 day window, where you are actually actively being encouraged to say your opinion, don't show up after that window is closed. (The new guy got it, Bright, he showed up early, it's the oldies that feel entitled that show up late)
Here in this case Gipfel proposed 3+3 for TdS/Dauphiné at first, maybe 5 editions together? Others (incl. me) then said they thought probably 4 was best, in the end he went with 4. Those that don't like it and show up after the 25th really have only themselves to blame. Not only it has to be exactly the way you want, otherwise c4f isn't "evolving", but also it has to be like that without you saying it. Amazing expectations. You think the milk in your fridge appears there automatically too right (it does in my case, if I wait long enough with doing things at some point some parts of the apartment seem to heal themselves, but at least I understand c4f isn't working like that)
So the whole "discussion" now really is completely pointless and a huge waste of time. Good for you I like wasting my time, especially if there's the possibility of a nice fight!
If you want to change the real date thing (which is not that strict for 1 day races, when there's 3 in one day, often one is being moved) then ideally you open a thread in the "calendar, general discussion" part. It is a general discussion after all, then it can be discussed without tight time constraints, with arguments and all that uncool stuff.
If you want to get some stage races into those holes mentioned above, fantasy or real ones that otherwise wouldn't be ridden, ZLM, Belgium, Slowenia, Occitanie for example this month, again, this is first of all a policy discussion, open a thread in the general discussion part again. And not short notice, as a general topic. Think ahead. Identify the problem (there's 2 periods a year when there's no stage race offered), spend 30 minutes looking at when it is, spend some time THINKING about it, spend some time looking for a solution, post a proposal. But keep in mind that somebody has to design those races too, they don't appear by miracle. And keep in mind that others might disagree with you (and in my specific case understand the whole topic arond 50 times better than you do too)
Plus, welcome to the afternoon. Even when the numbers were still ok, when Leso still made the calendar, in March for PN/TA and June for Dauphiné/TdS, it was regularly in the afternoon that managers didn't get to choose which race they wanted to ride, just one offered. See June 16, but was similar earlier, just not in the calendar anymore. 2015, 14... 2016: Dauphiné 9-14-19-21, TdS 10-17-20-23. (but Lux parallel to Dauphiné offered in the afternoon...) Stuff like that wasn't the exception, it was standard, despite having similar or even stronger numbers than the morning, it was always the afternoon that got cut. By now fortunately we've managed to cut stuff more evenly, very unfortunately forced by decreasing number of users (the more cuts, cut , cut cut, nonstop cutting came AFTER the numbers went down, just for Claw in case he wasn't sure (I'm sure he wasn't)). So now with still low, even if slowly recovering numbers right now we still can't offer all tours at 5 times like it was in the golden years. Not even 4 each makes sense if it's parallel. 3? Maybe, probably not... So we are at 2 each now for June, and well, now everybody feels the pain. With justified cuts. Not just one time, with unjustified ones. Deal with it. Seems some don't deal with it too well