Being in a rather good mood, which doesn't happen often, I'm even nice enough to tell Gipfel why I declared his post to be drivel. I was indeed a bit short there (thought about writing "worthless drivel", but decided 2 words were giving that drivel too much credit) But well, we want Gipfel to learn from his mistakes and not have him post drivel and what in the end is an unacceptable insult, so let's take some time to educate Gipfel.
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You are helpful when you post your opinion, you are absolutely not helpful when you try to make a point by distorting mine. And this isn't the first time. You're entitled to your opinion. Right. You are
not entitled to my opinion.
You got my "core times" wrong, you implied I think 17-19 is the strongest time, you claimed I gave 17-19 preferential treatment.
Some numbers about the early evening, 17-19
March:
31 races
12 races cat 3+
6 races cat 4+ 8-16 teams per race
2 stage races (9+11 teams)
20-23
54 races
20 races cat 3+
10 races cat 4+ 7-12 teams per race
4 stage races: 7/8/11/12 teams
20-22 (which would be the "core time" I see, not 20-23, as it is not 17-19 but 18-19 for the early evening)
36 races
14 races cat 3+
7 races cat 4+ 8-12 teams
3 stage races: 8/11/21
23-24
21 races
6 races cat 3+
3 races cat 3+ 7-12 teams
1 stage race, 7 teams
The numbers of teams might be wrong, the ingame count isn't really reliable, but not going to click on all of them. And of course weekends and weekdays have different numbers too, all together here.
So? Where is the preferential treatment for 17-19? It isn't there, very simple. So don't waste my time with complete idiocies like that post. Post what you think should be done. Don't post what you claim I think or do when you get it that wrong. And it's not got some details wrong, it's just completely wrong.
What do we learn from these numbers? And some general thinking?
That the evening isn't as dominating as it used to be. That the loss of players has resulted in lower numbers in the evening too. PN20+23, TA 22 then 1 day races. A few stinkers for the 1 day races there.
That 24h is basically dead, 3 races with low participation (ok, can't see that from my post)
That 23 is doing well enough for one day races.
That 23 wasn't very good for the one Tour they had. But 1 isn't necessarily representative either. And 7... we've seen worse at other times.
That the distribution to me looks pretty ok.
That March most likely was a bit special due to the virus. And that April will be as special. Which makes the prediction of how it will be in April more difficult.
That the afternoon might be profiting from lockdowns. Numbers went up in the second half of the month.
That 13h for reasons that are a complete mystery to me did ok with the 4 races it got 5-13 teams.
Yes, that's March.. not April.
Not going to count the editions for everything in the PDF, that isn't up to date anyway, but:
20-23 (actually 21-22, about which I'm not too happy myself, would have liked a 20 there) 4 stage races out of 4
17-19 3 stage races.
So for stage races 17-19 (really 18-19, here too you got the core times wrong) gets 1 more. The main evening 20-22 gains one too, at the expense of 23. 22 was always a bit of an unclassifiable evening btw, both main and late evening...
Not going to count the classics etc. but suspect it will turn out similarly to March. Gipfel could do it, more useful than making up shit for sure.
So what exactly did you want me to do? 5 20-23 and 2 17-19 because like it is now it's PREFERENTIAL treatment? Or 5-3, adding Sicilia for the early evening but take away another race?
If you want any of that, trying to convince me by attributing me some fantasy opinions or actions will never work. It will result in me dismissing the post. Quote and add "drivel" at the end. Imagine the "worthless" in front of it yourself.
This here is a one time service as well, I won't feel the need to show you that you're wrong in the future, but trust me, if you see a post of yours quoted with "drivel" as my comment, you are wrong.
But as I said, normally your (Gipfel's) comments and corrections are very useful and helpful, 2 pairs of eyes see better than one, (3 would be even better), 2 brains better than one (2,5 would be even better), I hope those continue. Just avoid trying to tell me what
I think, because pretty obviously you don't know that.