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Re: Calendar March

Post by olmania » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:54 am

Mhhh the race of the 12 March is not good. This race is old, from the old kms version. And what's more in March, these roads are sometimes with a lot of snow in France in the North of the Alps. And, that's not a HCBerg race, middle moutain maximum. ;)

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Re: Calendar March

Post by skull » Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:50 pm

its a funny thing
races with the same route like last year always look different when Aux make it^^
cipressa 4-5-4-9-1-1 ?
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Re: Calendar March

Post by iBanesto » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:15 pm

I know where that 9 came from.

http://www.gazzetta.it/grandeciclismo/m ... _ukm.shtml

max 9% there, but they also have 8% there for the Poggio. Koppenberg has max 23%, but we don't make it a 23.
Nevertheless, Cipressa and Poggio are difficult to judge, I've been through it myself last year. Getting it done perfectly right is impossible, it's always a bit subjective. Still, 9% is too much.

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Re: Calendar March

Post by Rockstar Inc » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:07 pm

Leso, please take the last years version of iBan...nearly the same route, nearly the same difficulties...
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Re: Calendar March

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:14 am

Turchino:

-Different from last year. Sure it has that many downhills in the early part of the "climb"? For example the 4 4 0-3 between Rossiglione and Campi Ligure??? How did you get these numbers'
- End of Turchino. 7% seems very steep for the Turchino. Probable mistake: Turchino has a tunnel on top...
- Downhill. Simply wrong. there is no -10 and -9 up there. Mistakes comes from the cronotabella, where they claim that after 3 Km we are at 267. I'm a big fan of using the cronotabella, but I'm a bigger fan of double and triple checking, and here it becomes obvious that they are wrong soon.

iBans version was closer to reality.


Capo Berta:
- Good I think, there probably is a 6 in there somewhere, at least that's what I got too when I designed something... Laigueglia? Not sure.

An improvement I think (but not 100% sure, will check further...)



Between Capo Berta and Cipressa:

-Not sure about those 2 hills, checking I can't find the reason for the plus 3 either. It goes up and down but +3? Up to at least 50 meters (you go down 50 meters after that. ) Where exactly? Not plan to go check further on that one, simply didn't find a place at 50+ meters there.


Cipressa:

- As iBan said, there are different possiblities, you can't do it 100% right. But this +9 there is 100% wrong.

Between Cipressa and Poggio:

- Ok, think iBans version 09 there is closer to reality, but here is ok, since in reality -1 or +1 has a much smaller influence than with us.

Poggio:

- Up ok, the 5 4 2 3 of iBan wasn't wrong either, simulates the effect better, since a 4 at RSF doesn't hurt anybody, the 5 makes it possible for riders to be dropped (doesn't happen anyway, but ok)
- downhill, 10 downhill meters missing. That's the reason for the technically wront -6 iBans, but it makes the overall correct, here we are missing 10 km down.

Want my downhill for the Poggio otherwise both version ok, one 100% follows the reality, 4 4 3 3, one tries to simulate it better.
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Re: Calendar March

Post by VC Aywaille » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:51 pm

The Nokere Koerse is ok lesossie. I just make small changes on the iban profile of 2009. Just to be coherant with the previous races this year and with the informations i find or receive.

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Re: Calendar March

Post by VC Aywaille » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:55 pm

Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:

05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
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Re: Calendar March

Post by lesossies » Sat Mar 06, 2010 6:18 pm

11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> VC Aywaille (to come)

Roubaix in Flandres ? Is my geografy so bad ?
The 2009 edition is maybe OK, must be on the server, like Vlaanderens Mooiste...

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Re: Calendar March

Post by olmania » Thu Mar 11, 2010 6:38 pm

I'm drawing the Critérium International, maybe finished saturday. ;)

But the Cat of the hills are not online, i must complete that later.

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Re: Calendar March

Post by olmania » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:41 pm

Ok, two problems :
- GPM are wonrg (not a big deal)
- i draw 165kms, I did that 2 times : 165 and 167kms, but no 176 like they said. What's wrong ?

So, a try :

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Re: Calendar March

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:58 am

Don't know... longer Km?

Just tested with tracks4bikers and came to 178, so too long...

Pianotolli I have at 48, you 46
Coralli 60 vs 58
Sartène 80/81 vs 74 /but think yours in in the wrong place anyway.
Viggianello 96 vs 91
Torre de Sari 118 vs 112
Orone 135 vs 129
Porto Vecchio 160/161/vs 148

So you with your longer french km lose a bit until Orono,then between Orone and Porto Vecchio is the big difference.


Other thing, Catalunya online.... nobody wanted... so I'll start with it, bah..
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Re: Calendar March

Post by olmania » Sat Mar 13, 2010 2:58 pm

Ok, now the good one :

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Re: Calendar March

Post by VC Aywaille » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:02 pm

Ok Paris-Roubaix is not in Flandres, but it's a "flandrian race"... A pave race if you prefer. But okay, let's keep the 2009 version.

I begin the other races tomorrow.
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Re: Calendar March

Post by skull » Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:11 pm

little hint for leso
catalunya is ready
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Re: Calendar March

Post by VC Aywaille » Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:52 pm

It's okay for the E3 update leso!

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Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:

05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
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Re: Calendar March

Post by Robyklebt » Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:34 pm

Catalunya should be cat 4!

Plus the designer, whoever that idiot was, made a mess in stage 4. 1' tact should begin at Km 180, not 18.
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Re: Calendar March

Post by VC Aywaille » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:07 pm

Now it's okay for the Gent - Wevelgem update too leso!

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Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:

05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> ok
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
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Re: Calendar March

Post by VC Aywaille » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:16 pm

VC Aywaille wrote:Here is the first stage of "De Panne 2010":

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Now the second stage:

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The first part of the last day (stage 3a):

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And the final stage (stage 3b):

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Leso, je n'ai pas trouvé pour mettre les demi-étapes, ça a été enlevé? Parce que depanne03 et depanne04 se courent le même jour. Si tu savais les mettre en semi-étape ce serait top.

Here is the calendar of the Vlaamse races:

05/03 - 07/03: Driedaagse van West-Vlaanderen -----> ok
17/03: Nokere Koers -----> ok
24/03: Dwars door Vlaanderen -----> ok
27/03: E3 Prijs Vlaanderen (Harelbeke) -----> ok
28/03: Gent - Wevelgem -----> ok
30/03 - 01/04: Driedaagse van De Panne - Koksijde -----> ok
04/04: Ronde van Vlaanderen -----> VC Aywaille (to come)
11/04: Paris-Roubaix -----> Probably we keep the 2009 version.
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Re: Calendar March

Post by Robyklebt » Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:05 pm

Kemmelberg no pavé in De Panne? Probably the old problem that pavé followed by a GPM or intermediate sprint.

Could be a problem in other less known hills too, new work for Aywaille! Check :lol:
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