June 10

[skull]

i checked the last km of stage 2 (Schwarzenburg) and stage 4 (Frutigen) in detail

in my eyes the last 5km of stage 2 are
3 ; -4 ; -5 ; 10 ; 1

and the last 3km of stage 4
0 ; 2 ; 2

and when i am at work
my version of the prologue
0 ; 6 ; 7 ; -6 ; -6 ; -1 ; -1 ; 0

[lesossies]

Excuse me ... I understand nothing

Rien de nouveau
Non

We discuss only about the holes in swiss cheese.

[olmania]

Excuse me ... I understand nothing

Rien de nouveau
Non

We discuss only about the holes in swiss cheese.

Eat french cheese

[ByZickl]

When comes Ster Elktrotoer into the race calendar? I see it here, but not in the game.

[NoPikouze]

I guess he's thinking about the times

11-15-20 for ster and delta ? one more ?

[Lizard]

Fuck...I´m very sorry to announce this, but can´t draw Tour de Luxembourg. My professor gave me a bad bad bad homework to do and since I´m going to Rock im Park I have no time left for drawing the stages.

[lesossies]

Luxembourg:
Is it not possible to take the most part from last year stages ?
Prologue OK
1.stage big part seems the same ?
2.stage almost the same ?
3.stage same end ?
4. stage almost the same ?

I could help.

[Rockstar Inc]

Hm, 5 times zeeland? hm, a little bit too much i think...Dauphine and Suisse crossing

[olmania]

Hm, 5 times zeeland? hm, a little bit too much i think...Dauphine and Suisse crossing

Or one time only for Div5-6

[lesossies]

Hm, 5 times zeeland? hm, a little bit too much i think...Dauphine and Suisse crossing

Zealand is a little 3 days WE tour.
so can everybody ride for fun.

[lesossies]

I begin Luxembourg

[skull]

what about suisse
i think the differences between the actual version and the real version are big enough to be changed
when you dont believe my statement above check it yourself

[Bear]

yesterday in the racechat, leso said that he will change it.

[lesossies]

what about suisse
i think the differences between the actual version and the real version are big enough to be changed
when you dont believe my statement above check it yourself

maybe tomorow

[Robyklebt]

Route du Sud
Slovenia

route du sud is a tradional race, not only reality, but RSF as well, every year since 06 we rode it. Should be in again. The profiles are there on their site. But Roby right now doesn't really have the energy to do something... maybe in a few days. But Route du Sud should be in.

Slovenia: I know, kind of problematic with Route du Sud and Ster at the same time. And despite being 2.1 in the UCI calendar it really isn't very important either. (Ok, not that Route du Sud counts for anything anymore, but that one has at least a certain (not that great either but..)tradition) But still, would be nice to get that too. After all Slovenia is one of the ignored countries in RSF, in reality they have quite a few riders, at RSF.... brrrr. Pro Slovenia!

Of the 3 probably right now Ster has become the most important, right now has 4 times. Cut one, then give 2 Route du Sud and one or 2 Slovenie.. (since it's all parallel to the TdS as well)

Designing shouldn't be a problem, if in a few days nobody has done Route du Sud, I'll do it, just not right now. Slovenia the same, but the profiles aren't on there yet either.

Ro

[Bear]

@Leso: A question because of luxemburg stage 1. On km174 it's a 1% km. I think it must be steeper. The road from Moutfort to Alzingen crosses Syren. Right after Syren the road goes 400m flat and 600m with more than 7%. Am I right? So I think it should be 5 or even 6%. This would change the result for sure. Think about that, thanks.

[lesossies]

@Leso: A question because of luxemburg stage 1. On km174 it's a 1% km. I think it must be steeper. The road from Moutfort to Alzingen crosses Syren. Right after Syren the road goes 400m flat and 600m with more than 7%. Am I right? So I think it should be 5 or even 6%. This would change the result for sure. Think about that, thanks.

The only elevation I see is for Contern from 265m to 320m in 5 km.
I gave 3% ... 4% would be maybe better.

By your description 600m 7% I would give maybe 3 or 4 %, because such a short elevation taken with more than 50kmh is not a big problem for the riders.
But we can look and change it if necessary.
If I look closer with Google
I see a little hill right after Syren direction Alzingen, but I think they ride from Syren to Hassel and then to Alzingen.
If somebody is sure which street they take, I´ll change it.

[Rockstar Inc]

please announce a possible change today

[Bear]

I checked it only with tracks4bikers. There I saw the ascent. But you are right, because it's really short 3% or 4% might be better. But I really think there is an elevation from about 265m up to 325 right after the village of Syren. And there is only one road through Syren. But maybe tracks4bikers/googlemaps is wrong. Did you check it with google earth in detail?

[lesossies]

I adapted the Swiss tour.
Prologue : Start at finish at same height or not ?
Stage 2 : after a 5% downhill 10% -> 9%


Ster Elektrotoer now at 13, 19 and 22h.
By this way probably 11,18,23h for Route du Sud (nice WE Tour)
or
If we start Slovenia maybe 10,18 for Slovenia and 14, 23 for Sud ....

[lesossies]

My version of the prologue:
0,4,7,2,-6,-6,1-,0,0

the street m/m with google

[skull]

hm, your version is 9km
8 is already rounded up
but i see in the calendar there are 8km

the climb is ca. from km 1,5 to 3,5
my method is to have the climb parts together and put the rest around
your method is to go km by km
so you stretch the two km climb on three km
its not easy to decide in a inflexible one-km-system and i dont judge the methods
both versions are better than the old

[Robyklebt]

Der KV ist mit Skull einverstanden.

Nach Marschtabelle:

Bei 1,4 276 Meter
2,4 336
3,3 391
3,5 411

Insgesamt 7,6 Km, bei uns dann 8. Das ganze wird am einfachsten wenn man diese 0,4 am Anfang anhängt, also bei den Zahlen oben je 0,4 dazu zählt, dann eigentlich relativ klar das ganze.

[olmania]

Roby after a win in the Giro : He's out of himself ... write in german here first ... He's not fine ...

[lesossies]

The 2 new versions are OK
I have only controled because the differences between the 2 ones were so big.