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Re: June 2025

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Sat May 31, 2025 12:17 am

I saw no gpx data anywhere. Designed it with the help of RideWithGPS by hand. Design is finished. Have to add the town names and set it into the calendar. Will update Dauphine then. I Might be finished around 2-3 AM I think

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Re: June 2025

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Sat May 31, 2025 12:18 am

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Re: June 2025

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Sat May 31, 2025 8:33 am

Updated Dauphine:

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Re: June 2025

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Sat May 31, 2025 9:19 am

Occitanie finished. You should see it in calendar, but as I already said, I had to handdesign it completely with RideWithGps, so some parts could be very wrong.

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Re: June 2025

Post by Radunion » Sat May 31, 2025 9:20 am

I'm always in favour of not accuracy, but the Dauphine update means I have to reconsider my race plan. Before it was possible for a sprinter to win something, now it is not. So please look at this if you have already set your form.

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Re: June 2025

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Sat May 31, 2025 9:29 am

Radunion wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 9:20 am
I'm always in favour of not accuracy, but the Dauphine update means I have to reconsider my race plan. Before it was possible for a sprinter to win something, now it is not. So please look at this if you have already set your form.
Yes, true. I am still sorry that the update was needed.

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Re: June 2025

Post by Radunion » Sat May 31, 2025 9:47 am

Now I looked at the official Dauphine profiles and have to argue. Stage 1, 0.6 a 8.6 % looks more as a 5 than a 6 to me, both in pure elevation and influence it has in the race. Stage 2, 6-6 looks a bit much for 1.8 a 5.7 %. Stage 3 1.2 a 9.2 % is not a 10.

It will not change much for me as even with this changes there is no point in bringing a full sprint team but I argue against making races harder than they actually are.

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Re: June 2025

Post by olmania » Sat May 31, 2025 11:26 am

Radunion wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 9:47 am
Now I looked at the official Dauphine profiles and have to argue. Stage 1, 0.6 a 8.6 % looks more as a 5 than a 6 to me, both in pure elevation and influence it has in the race. Stage 2, 6-6 looks a bit much for 1.8 a 5.7 %. Stage 3 1.2 a 9.2 % is not a 10.

It will not change much for me as even with this changes there is no point in bringing a full sprint team but I argue against making races harder than they actually are.
I disagree, and I can give a little more details after the first review/check I did a lot earlier. As I designed by hand the climbs, in stage one it has about 400m at 11.5%; it's a true wall. Also the street keeps climbing a little after the KOM which the placed before the roundabout; so 6% makes sense there to me.
Stage 2, hand designed, the climb is a bit over 2kms, maybe they placed the kom not exactly at the "top" as the last part is less steep. 6-6 looks good in terms of d+ and distance.
Stage 3, it's 1.2km at 9%, with a hand design, i see it's very long steep part near 15-16%, so making it 10% for 200m less makes sense to me. Less steep part leads to the kom banned explaining the 1.2km (and only 9% average; even if I found more as I remember when handesigned it); and then it turns to a light incline, for the 2% coming next to the kom.

Looking at numbers they give for the KOM is good, but for very short climbs, when it's possible to get more details/info, it's useful to adapt the % to our km by km system.

I agree, it makes it less interesting for sprint teams in RSF.

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Re: June 2025

Post by TDM_Luxembourg » Sat May 31, 2025 12:40 pm

Has anyone found a mistake for Occitanie. Otherwise I would be finished

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Re: June 2025

Post by olmania » Sat May 31, 2025 1:18 pm

TDM_Luxembourg wrote:
Sat May 31, 2025 12:40 pm
Has anyone found a mistake for Occitanie. Otherwise I would be finished
With the little info available, I think it's good that way. If we have more details later, it could be adapted, but I think it's good enough to give all necessary info for the forms ;) thanks for the great work !

Only question about stage 2 : how did you find the way they do the final lap ? (it does not look obvious from their map)

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Re: June 2025

Post by Radunion » Sat May 31, 2025 8:28 pm

We will see how the Dauphine stages work out in real life. Either I will complain or eat humble pie. But overall it makes little difference as sprinters will not turn up anyways. And of course thanks for the work to try to make the short climbs more accurate even if I disagree about minor details.

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Re: June 2025

Post by olmania » Sun Jun 01, 2025 2:30 pm

Giro dell'Appennino looks similar to past years

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Re: June 2025

Post by cataracs » Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:52 am

ECS you need to put your races on "review" after you're done designing!

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Re: June 2025

Post by ECS Cycling » Mon Jun 02, 2025 1:46 pm

cataracs wrote:
Mon Jun 02, 2025 8:52 am
ECS you need to put your races on "review" after you're done designing!
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