June 2013

[Allagen]

wann ist eigentlich die wm bzw u23 wm?

September would be a good time for the next one

ist doch normalerweise alle 3 monate oder nicht? habe mir jetzt extra wieder einen neuen u23 weltmeister gezüchtet jetzt muss es auch das olle rennen geben

[luques]

GP Südkärnten inserted in database, today work good, probably was a problem with my computer .

Here is the profile, Cat 1.2 One Day Race, max 8 riders:



And here there is the Italian TT Championship, 23/06:



Campionato Italiano - Trofeo Melinda:

[lesossies]

wann ist eigentlich die wm bzw u23 wm?

September would be a good time for the next one

ist doch normalerweise alle 3 monate oder nicht? habe mir jetzt extra wieder einen neuen u23 weltmeister gezüchtet jetzt muss es auch das olle rennen geben

I think September too
In June are the official NMs
In July is the Tour

[olmania]

Hmmm, since when you have such altitude in Latvia (vs Riga Ventspils) ? Btw, the race is cancelled I guess.

[Allagen]

wann ist eigentlich die wm bzw u23 wm?

September would be a good time for the next one

ist doch normalerweise alle 3 monate oder nicht? habe mir jetzt extra wieder einen neuen u23 weltmeister gezüchtet jetzt muss es auch das olle rennen geben

I think September too
In June are the official NMs
In July is the Tour

jetzt ernsthaft? das war doch bisher immer alle 3 monate oder nicht? arrrrgggsss wieso kauf ich denn immer extra leader im 3 monatstakt wenn man dann nicht mal die u23 gewinnen kann, brrrr

[Alkworld]

I think September too
In June are the official NMs
In July is the Tour

jetzt ernsthaft? das war doch bisher immer alle 3 monate oder nicht? arrrrgggsss wieso kauf ich denn immer extra leader im 3 monatstakt wenn man dann nicht mal die u23 gewinnen kann, brrrr

I created a poll -> viewtopic.php?f=37&t=3742

[Robyklebt]

I don't think there is a poll needed really. I think we should have the WC in June. The poll, ok, then for the next ones, only real ones or not, but since it was expected that we would have WC in June, let's have the WC in June.
25. looks good. A tuesday, yes, but who cares

Times:

TdF: 9-13-16-19-21-23 says the preview
I don't have any problems with that, as long as 14-16 gets one, and since it does... ok.
Dauphiné-TdS: Brrrr, no afternoon for one of the 2, brrrrr! No good. Both should be there on the afternoon. Or explain why the morning gets both and the afternoon only 1.
Then maybe one of the 2 could be 15? Since neither Giro or TdF were 15 (but Vuelta will I expect) give 15 one of the 2 as well. the other one then 14 or 16. And actually the same for 10..

[sylvainmeteo]

I'll try to do Luxembourg

[Robyklebt]

Still no change in the preview.

TdF: 9-13-16-19-21-23 says the preview
I don't have any problems with that, as long as 14-16 gets one, and since it does... ok.
Dauphiné-TdS: Brrrr, no afternoon for one of the 2, brrrrr! No good. Both should be there on the afternoon. Or explain why the morning gets both and the afternoon only 1.
Then maybe one of the 2 could be 15? Since neither Giro or TdF were 15 (but Vuelta will I expect) give 15 one of the 2 as well. the other one then 14 or 16. And actually the same for 10..

Can we have definitive decisions?

No reason not to give anything to 10 in the morning. Giro 9, Tour 9, Dauphiné 11, TdS 9
No reason not to give anything to 15 in the afternoon: Giro 14, Tour 16, TdS 14, Dauphine not at all.
2 times for the afternoon. One of them 15. And since I'm at it, make it the TdS, since that fits MY schedule better than 14.. .hehe.

[Freudenfeuer]

Würde gerne zum ersten mal die TDF fahren, ist es ev. möglich die Zeit von 19:00Uhr auf 18:00Uhr zu ändern? Ic h weiß, da kann ja jeder her kommen und Wünsche äußern!!! Ist nur eine Frage............... Vielleicht kann man das möglich machen wenn kein Einwand kommt....??

[lesossies]

Start times can be changed.
15 and 18 are possible too.

[Allagen]

i would prefer 15 and 18 too

[gaurain rx]

Well, but 9 -13 - 15 -18 doesn't make any sense... So once again, it''s a global reflection!

I'll start drawing ZLM Toer

[Moscow Team Pro]

I'll start drawing ZLM Toer

sorry...

[gaurain rx]

Well, it's me who is sorry for you as you will have to suffer my criticism:

So general.

1. Hill category : Why 3? Write nowhere which category it is, so as there might be 4 parralel tours, do it 4, enough money like that.

2. 9 riders. They rode it irl with 8. As it's a quite easy tour, following the irl rule seems sensefull!

3. Name of the tour. Actually, the tour was still named "Elektrotoer" in the calendar last year and for the stage, "Ster Zlm" was used. For the "continuation" of the palmares, it would be nice it stays the same (but that's more a question/statement to leso).

So,

Stage 1 and 2, nothing to say, you even found more hill than me!

Stage 3, a quite good draw... Even if (and there, I can't let it go as it's quite the same roads as for Amstel). Part between Cauberg till Bemelerberg is the same as in Amstel. But ok, where I disagree is Bemelerberg with 6, it's imo a 5 (also a 5 in the world championship circuit). Loorberg/groeneweg excellent! Then Gulperberg (km 84), 5 is surely the truth but we usually use it as a 8 in Amstel (as it's really really steep but short)... but ok, can live with a 5 (but not in comparison with Bemelerberg). Same for Eyserbosweg (km 90), 8 would be nice (as this one is really one km (that's what my GPS told me last tme I biked it)). Last thing is Eyserweg, km 133. 4-4 for you, 7-4 in Amstel!

But still, it seems quite good the final circuit a bit flattier than one I've found : (10 1 -2 1 0 -1 0) but of course it doesn't matter that much, as the result might be a sprint!

Stage 4 : Not a lot to say, which means I find it nice, good job, even if I think it would deserve more sieb km in the first part of the race!

Then the big question is la Gileppe, of course. again a new version : 5 -5. After the Nopik 6-6, the WCCT 3-6-3, now a 5-5. I don't blame you, I just find funny the same climb is drawned every year differently. So I promise. I go there with the GPS and then give my impression about it ^^

Stage 5, I have no clue at all!

[lesossies]

I started with the Route du Sud

[sylvainmeteo]

Stage 1 and 2 done
I'll Edit with the profiles
Stage 1 : Prolog (3 km but 2.55 real)


Stage 2 : Luxembourg - Hautcharange (185km but 183.6 real end is 10,6 km circuit)

[Moscow Team Pro]

My premise is that I just started to draw and ran laps and criticisms that come to me are absolutely unwelcome.

I try to answer anyway:

1) name: I put the name that I find on the official website of the race;

2) the number of runners: I put 9 8 but can fit well, no problem;

3) the slopes of some of the walls: I searched for information on each wall, trying to do the best you can;

4) Gileppe: tells me I'm 2600 meters at 5.5% on average, I could put 5/6 and 5/5 you're right, frankly I do not have more information about;

if you can fix a few things for me is fine, 2 or more people contribute to the creation of a race for me is the best solution!

http://www.sterzlmtoer.nl/

http://catenacycling.com/it/giro-del-mo ... la-gileppe

[gaurain rx]

My premise is that I just started to draw and ran laps and criticisms that come to me are absolutely unwelcome.

I try to answer anyway:

1) name: I put the name that I find on the official website of the race;

2) the number of runners: I put 9 8 but can fit well, no problem;

3) the slopes of some of the walls: I searched for information on each wall, trying to do the best you can;

4) Gileppe: tells me I'm 2600 meters at 5.5% on average, I could put 5/6 and 5/5 you're right, frankly I do not have more information about;

if you can fix a few things for me is fine, 2 or more people contribute to the creation of a race for me is the best solution!

http://www.sterzlmtoer.nl/

http://catenacycling.com/it/giro-del-mo ... la-gileppe

Damn, you only read the "to be made better" comments, not the 4 good job I wrote I actually don't understand why you take it bad as I tried to be quite constructive on positive and negative sides. Critics on both sides so.

1. Name, was a statement to Leso, what he wanted, for the continuation over the years, the uniformity of the palmares;

2. Number : Leso again... I just shared that I would find 8 more logic;

3. Slopes of the wall : again, it's something that can be discussed. I just shared what we used for Amstel. It's not to be followed but it can help to have an idea. Actually, the 2 I really "complained" about were Bemelerberg and Eyserbosweg if you read me clearly.

4. Last thing is Gileppe of course and that one is quite important as it will influence the gc fight quite a lot... And I wrote you what we had over the years, I don't have the truth at all. But Imo, looking at your link and the profile, seeing that there is a part at 6-7% between 200 - 1.200m, I would put a 6.

[Moscow Team Pro]

you're wrong I did not take what I say bad indeed, I am very pleased with your advice and many of your observations thinking better I fully agree.

Probably then my English is not about making what I mean ...

[olmania]

Hmmm, since when you have such altitude in Latvia (vs Riga Ventspils) ? Btw, the race is cancelled I guess.

Sorry to quote myself, but it sucks if such a race is in the calendar with a fake profile. Better cancel it (like in reality) and add a fantasy race !

[lesossies]

New overview
http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/june2013.pdf
New times for
Dauphiné 11,16,19,21,24
Suisse 10,15,18,20,22

I´ll programm it tonight in the calendar !

[Allagen]

10-15-18-22-24 at tour de france?

10-15-18-21-24 sounds much nicer or?

[sylvainmeteo]

10-15-18-22-24 at tour de france?

10-15-18-21-24 sounds much nicer or?

+1

[gaurain rx]

Stage 1 and 2 done
I'll Edit with the profiles
Stage 1 : Prolog (3 km but 2.55 real)


Stage 2 : Luxembourg - Hautcharange (185km but 183.6 real end is 10,6 km circuit)

Cat 1 and Cat 2 hills only sm... I thought they were all HC in Luxembourg! Damn please, do it a bit less on purpose and try to have a bit of credit!