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.Va beh ma è anche normale che ognuno porti acqua al suo mulino, il +5 ci sta anche ma mettere un +5 +4 +4 e poi discesa sarebbe troppo penalizzante per gli sprinter perché poi in cima il poggio spiana consentendo il recupero degli inseguitori.Coroncina2 wrote:Il punto è che chi ha classici vuole il 5 per siebbare e vincere facile. Qua ognuno tira l'acqua al suo mulino.
Io ho sia un classico che un velocista
Even on official roadbooks 1st km of poggio is 4,7%...luques wrote:So much words for nothing.
1) It should depend on the designer deciding what he thinks should be the best optio.
2) Have someone at least read the OFFICIAL Roadbook? Here it is the link http://www.milanosanremo.it/wp-content/ ... VBASSA.pdf
As you see if you look at last kms it should be at max a 4-4-3-(2).
If you look at the specific profile (that imo should have less importance than the description of the last 20kms), you get a 4.7, 3.9, 3.6, 2. Imo as you are already raising a 4.7 to 5 and 3.9 to 4 the correct thing should be a 5-4-3-2, actually a 5-4-4 with the downhill immediately after it is imo too much advantage for those with good mountain skills.
In any case if it was my design I would just simply copy and paste the last 30kms as described in "Last Km" page 25 being, the work there is already done...
And honestly I think that the official roadbook is the Only thing to consider.
P.S. The total D+ is 136m, so with a 5-4-3-2 we are ok (but also with a 4-4-3-2 actually depends where you want to approximate)
Do you at least read what I write...NicoVanarlo wrote:Even on official roadbooks 1st km of poggio is 4,7%...luques wrote:So much words for nothing.
1) It should depend on the designer deciding what he thinks should be the best optio.
2) Have someone at least read the OFFICIAL Roadbook? Here it is the link http://www.milanosanremo.it/wp-content/ ... VBASSA.pdf
As you see if you look at last kms it should be at max a 4-4-3-(2).
If you look at the specific profile (that imo should have less importance than the description of the last 20kms), you get a 4.7, 3.9, 3.6, 2. Imo as you are already raising a 4.7 to 5 and 3.9 to 4 the correct thing should be a 5-4-3-2, actually a 5-4-4 with the downhill immediately after it is imo too much advantage for those with good mountain skills.
In any case if it was my design I would just simply copy and paste the last 30kms as described in "Last Km" page 25 being, the work there is already done...
And honestly I think that the official roadbook is the Only thing to consider.
P.S. The total D+ is 136m, so with a 5-4-3-2 we are ok (but also with a 4-4-3-2 actually depends where you want to approximate)
EDIT:
You dont have to start. Ane with all the classics i think it's good to have a race for the climbers in this period.Pokemon Club wrote:I just have a look at the races program on the calendar, IMO Barcis - Cercivento is too hard to be between Dwaars and GPE3
In this period in Italia it is probably a wrong idea to have this one, Tirreno proves itRasmussen wrote:You dont have to start. Ane with all the classics i think it's good to have a race for the climbers in this period.Pokemon Club wrote:I just have a look at the races program on the calendar, IMO Barcis - Cercivento is too hard to be between Dwaars and GPE3
you egoistic donkeyRobyklebt wrote:Thank you for the excellent program you're making Leso, but I think you might have forgotten to cancel the afternoon edition of Gent Wevelgem!
After all it's very very clear that on Wundays the afternoon should get absolutely 0 one day races. And if not 0 rather minus 1 than 1.
Look at what happened when you offered one (by mistake, I'm sure) on the first sunday of march! 10 teams started at 14, compared to 4 at 9, 7 at 19, 6 at 24. Only 21 with 12 had more teams. Definitive proof that on Sundays afternoon races simply don't work. So you better take out the one on the 27th, Gent-Wevelgem. Otherwise there is the risk of the same thing happening, that useless afternoon taking away teams for worthier times. Something that we fortunately managed to avoid last Sunday (11+17 the times) and tomorrow (10+19).
It was a sarcasm from Donkey because their was no races program in the afternoon before yesterday night.lennylenny wrote:you egoistic donkeyRobyklebt wrote:Thank you for the excellent program you're making Leso, but I think you might have forgotten to cancel the afternoon edition of Gent Wevelgem!
After all it's very very clear that on Wundays the afternoon should get absolutely 0 one day races. And if not 0 rather minus 1 than 1.
Look at what happened when you offered one (by mistake, I'm sure) on the first sunday of march! 10 teams started at 14, compared to 4 at 9, 7 at 19, 6 at 24. Only 21 with 12 had more teams. Definitive proof that on Sundays afternoon races simply don't work. So you better take out the one on the 27th, Gent-Wevelgem. Otherwise there is the risk of the same thing happening, that useless afternoon taking away teams for worthier times. Something that we fortunately managed to avoid last Sunday (11+17 the times) and tomorrow (10+19).
you see that there were enough who were interested in a afternoon race, so why should it be canceled?
oh i see, you don't have time in the afternoon, so better say it should be cancelled to get you a race with more teams
and were is it said that the starting times have different values? if a time gets 10+ teams, it is worthy
so we shoudl cancel the races at 9, 19 and 24 or no races
mintact at 60km of the finish for GP E3 which is a cat 5 ? Looks normal =)Coroncina2 wrote:just dont start min tactic at -60 in a racè of 200 kms...
it will ènd at 2:13.
however last racè at 23 could bè morè humane
*push*team fl wrote:De Panne, Stage 2:
Pavé is not set on the Kemmelberg at km 121, but at km 120. I guess that's not wanted. Maybe the same for km 125?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zxNnyfSLTkteam fl wrote:*push*team fl wrote:De Panne, Stage 2:
Pavé is not set on the Kemmelberg at km 121, but at km 120. I guess that's not wanted. Maybe the same for km 125?
and again... it's still not done.luques wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zxNnyfSLTkteam fl wrote:*push*team fl wrote:De Panne, Stage 2:
Pavé is not set on the Kemmelberg at km 121, but at km 120. I guess that's not wanted. Maybe the same for km 125?
How do I want to correct it? Not at all, because I just can't. But maybe Buhman is able to as well?Pokemon Club wrote:How do you want it is correct with leso in holidays ?
Maybe, but when was the last time we saw Buh here ?team fl wrote:How do I want to correct it? Not at all, because I just can't. But maybe Buhman is able to as well?Pokemon Club wrote:How do you want it is correct with leso in holidays ?