September 2011

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:38 pm

auxilium torino wrote:last news say that Prato will be cancelled...no money this year???

Prato is Saved!

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:19 pm

And here why Padania is a bad idea: In reality, of course since it's there in reality, make it at RSF too, no problem. Well, same problem, but we just copy it.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bugno-c ... -and-sport

The very name of the race is a highly-charged one in an Italian context: “Padania” is not a regional entity, but a controversial term coined by the Lega Nord to describe the northern part of Italy, which it hopes will gain autonomy. In such a context, Bugno said that the towns on the route should simply have refused to host the race.

Of course when Moser says that Rifondazione Communista are idiots for interrupting it, and a 73 year old guy attacking a stagiare is an idiot too, he is right. But everybody knew it would happen anyway. It's obvious pure PR and provocation by Lega Nord, mixing sports and politics. Then being surprised, as I'm sure they officially are now, "but it's only a race!" is just hypocrisy.

Post by **lesossies** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:18 pm

I must agree, I had no idea about this race before.
We could rename Padania if the name makes some problems, but which name ?

How is it with Modena, Prato and isbergues? same profiles like last year ?

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:28 pm

No, I think keep the name because it's the name in reality.
Modena seems not to be raced this year.

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:41 am

The word Padania is not a Lega Nord creation, but this is a complicated italian history.
Padania find out in old history book , before Italy give.
Padania come from Padus, the old latin name from the river PO, and from this the land next the river was named Val Padana.

Race is organizated from SOCIETA’ CICLISTICA ALFREDO BINDA(3ValliVaresine, you know), with collaboration from lega Nord, but this is not new, GS Emilia (Coppi and Bartali), are an communist organization..., if you acept race from Emilia (give 4 in year), can you also acept Padania.
And another little point:Bugno speak also from their politic chair, that he is a candidate from PDI...he make also politic.
i think, let italian problem at the italian people, thanks!

Modena si delete, for sure, no money, come back in 2012...race the old version, like Veneto.
I will draw Prato next day, and another pair races...
Sicilia and Lazio are deleted too.

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:13 am

The word Padania of course in Italy has only one meaning nowadays. And it's not Val Padana which is a geographical term, but Padania is a political term. Nothing else. And you know it.

GS Emilia. If it's a communist organization, first time I heard that, but ok, the difference is: They don't call their races Giro dell Emilia sovietica, Giro della Sargdegna comunista ecc. Their names are not political, Giro della Padania has a political, not a geographical name. Had Lega Nord gone for a non-political term, it would be MUCH less controversial.

Let Italian problems to the Italian people? Mmh, so you stop commenting about anything that is not Italian now?

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:02 am

@ leso:
1-Is Wallonie in calender the actual profil?
2-is Van Vlaanderen in calender the actual profile?

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:23 am

1: http://www.trworg.be/pages/gpw/itineraire
2: http://www.kampioenschapvanvlaanderen.b ... =9&lang=en

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:34 am

Hokkaido still should be cat 1

Then, pro forma, know you won't do it...

either Hokkaido or at least that fantasytour as a D5-6 thing...

NoPikouze · Post by **NoPikouze** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:02 pm

Fourmies cat 4 and quebec/montréal cat 3 ? i don't get it...
Ok I do, but it doesnt make sense.

Rockstar Inc · Post by **Rockstar Inc** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:06 am

*clap clap clap*

more times...more times....we need more times...

Britain 9:00

Online: 1
RV Zahna

Offline: 4
gavia(6)
RC Bad Hersfeld(128)
EckartsbergaSV(128)
Leopard Nissan(128)

really? 9 days, 5 teams...let's guess...4 Mio+ for zahna?

5 riders of Zahna and 6 riders of Gavia are 19:28 in front of the rest of the peloton...cancel this tour....

the 6 riders of Gavia are part of a teamattack...

Km: 19, Steigung: -3
Vincent Adorni (gavia) attackiert
Paolo Fuente (gavia) attackiert

Km: 14, Steigung: 2
Louis Vanleft (RV Zahna) attackiert
Jaquelot Anquetil (gavia) attackiert
Charly Delgado (gavia) attackiert

Km: 6, Steigung: 0, Gegenwind
Piero Pieroni (gavia) attackiert
Piccoli Michel (gavia) attackiert

Robyklebt · Post by **Robyklebt** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:15 am

It's a shit race, who cares? Much worse is Montréal and Fourmies today. Both 4-5 editions? Even my proposal limit it to 4 probably would have been too much..grr

Quick · Post by **Quick** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:23 am

Team Franconia wrote:*clap clap clap*
more times...more times....we need more times...

Britain 9:00

Online: 1
RV Zahna

Offline: 4
gavia(6)
RC Bad Hersfeld(128)
EckartsbergaSV(128)
Leopard Nissan(128)

really? 9 days, 5 teams...let's guess...4 Mio+ for zahna?

5 riders of Zahna and 6 riders of Gavia are 19:28 in front of the rest of the peloton...cancel this tour....

the 6 riders of Gavia are part of a teamattack...

Km: 19, Steigung: -3
Vincent Adorni (gavia) attackiert
Paolo Fuente (gavia) attackiert

Km: 14, Steigung: 2
Louis Vanleft (RV Zahna) attackiert
Jaquelot Anquetil (gavia) attackiert
Charly Delgado (gavia) attackiert

Km: 6, Steigung: 0, Gegenwind
Piero Pieroni (gavia) attackiert
Piccoli Michel (gavia) attackiert

cancel it! teamattacks+unrealisticbehaviour+shitfield

Rockstar Inc · Post by **Rockstar Inc** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:33 am

well it's not enough to have 5 + 6 guys 20 min in front...no...more attacks out of the peloton

Km: 167, Steigung: -1
Eric Gerdeman (gavia) attackiert
Mauro Cipollini (gavia) attackiert

Km: 166, Steigung: 0
Ludvig BjÃ¶rsson (RV Zahna) attackiert
Kasper Nybakken (RV Zahna) attackiert

Post by **lesossies** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:32 pm

I am for cancelling too !

Summertime seems to be out.
5 times for a tour normaly not too much, the other times are OK

Rockstar Inc · Post by **Rockstar Inc** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:09 pm

lesossies wrote:I am for cancelling too !

Summertime seems to be out.
5 times for a tour normaly not too much, the other times are OK

they are too much if your have 2 "classics" and the last day of the vuelta at the same date

hm, i'm in a good mood today...so cancel the tour soon, that they have the opportunity to ride at another time...so they can use their form-settings...not like some other teams in the past....

AND cut the money and points they earned today

Post by **lesossies** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:45 pm

Britain 9h has been canceled !

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:00 pm

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:39 pm

17 Sep Univest Grand Prix Usa 1.2

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:50 pm

ok, we need Isbergues(UCI 1.1) on 18 sept., and
What is with Germany Tour? Allagen strike this year?

Gipfelstuermer · Post by **Gipfelstuermer** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:28 pm

auxilium torino wrote: What is with Germany Tour? Allagen strike this year?

If it's needed, i would offer to draw it. Know some really nice routes

Ok probably lots of us know good cycling routes in Germany... and we already have South Alps in the calendar...

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:02 pm

mein vorschlag kommt weil, wir haben hier ein grosses anteil deutsche spieler, und , leider, die DEU RF wird nicht mehr ausgetragen, auf finanzielle grunde...
weil ich mich nicht an der DEU RF beteilige(nicht zeichnen, nicht fahren), wurde ich ein paar vorschlagen machen, weil letztes jahr, wenn meine meinung zugelassen ist , war der zeichner etwas zu extrem pro klassiker team.
sollte es zu eine DEU RF kommen, mein vorschlag ist:
7-9 tages
mindesten ein ITT (ganz oder halb etappe)
eine TTT(falls 8 oder 9 tages, wenn nur 7, kann auch nicht stattfinden)
mindesten 3 flach etappen(ganz), und ev. eine viertes(halbetappe, seheh oben ITT)
mindesten eine bergetappe mit bergankunft...
so solltes etwas chance geben fur alles, zu fahren und zum gewinnen

sorry, aber letztes jahr war schon eindeutlich pro zeichner team gezeichnet

Avaya · Post by **Avaya** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:28 pm

Ich finde auch, dass wir wenigstens hier die Deutschland Rundfahrt fahren sollten, wenn sie denn schon nicht mehr so ausgetragen wird.

zu Aux:
Also 2 Zeitfahren für so eine kurze Rundfahrt find ich eigentlich zu viel. Okay, es kommt auf die Länge an & wenn man es denn macht, dann eins davon auf jeden Fall als Halbetappe. 3 Flachetappen hören sich auf jeden Fall fair an, dazu dann 2 hügelige(denn so ist's in Mitteldeutschland halt einfach) und 1-2 Bergetappen, wovon eins mit ner Bergankunft enden sollte.

Nur, ob wir im September unbedingt noch eine Tour brauchen ist fraglich. Okay, wir haben South Alps gegen Ende des Monats. Also, wenn wir sie stattfinden lassen, würde ich das Monatsübergreifend machen, sprich Ende September so nach der WM in den Oktober rein.

auxilium torino · Post by **auxilium torino** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:37 pm

Die etappen sind etwas nach PN und TA beispiel...seit ein paar jehr, sind bei wichtiges RF das 7 oder mehr tages dauern ein TTT und ein ITT fast immer dabei...
finde ich gerecht und interessant so ein weg ziu verfolgen, bin naturlich gespannt nach Roby meinung...platz in kalender wird es schon Leso finden, fur eure freude und palmares

Woddeltown Team · Post by **Woddeltown Team** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:55 pm

Wenn ich mich recht entsinne, war es bei der realen Deutschlandtour so, dass es immer zwei Zeitfahren +prolog gab

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