April 2013

[gaurain rx]

LBL should have been lbl11_12ls2.c4f

Tried to load it but well, didn't managed so, will just write here the %age I want and or you put them in the file, or I find a solution to load first

So from km 233 : -5/-4/-6/-2/0/0/0/1/-1/-1/7/6/5/1/0/-1/-3/-6/-8/-2/-1/0/0/11/-4/-3/0/3/5

So, 261km in total instead of 262!

[lesossies]

I updated the 2012 doyenne from km233:
http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f


OK ?

[NicoVanarlo]

I updated the 2012 doyenne:
http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f


OK ?

no! it's note "roche aux faucons" but "côte de colonster"!

[gaurain rx]

I updated the 2012 doyenne from km233:
http://www.radsportfreaks.de/radsport/p ... ension=c4f


OK ?

Nice job Leso. Your design of la Flêche seems ok too! Thanks for the collaboration for the design

[gaurain rx]

Just little thing : mintakt LBL : km 237 seems too late, would even say 170 but 202 seems a good solution!

[skull]

Don't forget the Tour of Turkey.
Actually i think it's worth Cat.3 meanwhile.
It has a high status for some years now and half the Pro Tour is there with good lineups.
A lot better than Dunkerque for example.

[stevens]

for me the Tour of Turkey is like the Crétérium International the last month so i'm agree with skull and don't forget him please

[Avaya]

yes.. i spend lot of work for turkey, and we also rode it last year, and like skullz said it has a high status.. :>

and leso feel free to take a look over the stages, if u want to implement them. I'm not soo experienced in drawing stages

[Alkworld]

Don't forget the Tour of Turkey.
Actually i think it's worth Cat.3 meanwhile.
It has a high status for some years now and half the Pro Tour is there with good lineups.
A lot better than Dunkerque for example.

Agree.
The categories are by the way pretty random right now. In my opinion, we could basically just stick to the official categories:
- GT -> 5
- WorldTour stage races (Paris - Nice, Tirenno, Tour de Suisse, etc.) -> 4
- 2.HC -> 3 (e.g. Turkey and Trentino at the moment)
- 2.1 -> 2
- others -> 1
In some cases exceptions might make sense (e.g. those stupid Chinese WorldTour races), but generally it seems suitable.

[Robyklebt]

We are actually very close to that

You say some exceptions, like the Tour of Beijing only at 3 (Hangzhou cancelled, good). We have a few more. Down Under, Poland, Eneco join Beijing at 3 usually. Which IMO is more than ok.
And we have 2.HC exceptions that make sense too. Look at the full 2.HC list

Qatar
Oman
Langkawi
Criterium International
De Panne
Trentino
Turkey
Dunkerque
California
Bayern
Belgique
Luxemburg
Qinghai
Wallonie
Denmark
Burgos
USA Pro Cycling Challenge
Limousin
Hainan

Some of them are clearly "worth less" than others. The status isn't the same for Hainan and De Panne. Langkawi and Burgos, Qinghai and Trentino. Some of them as cat 3 would just be a joke (since both Alk and I agree that Beijing should stay 3)

As for Turkey don't care... Trentino should have been 3 clearly, if it wasn't.. brr. Turkey can be 3, (although high status for a few years is clearly wrong, same as good squads by the PT teams.. .good money and weather, so there, send a few guys who can't ride (Ubeto for Lampre..) and some other dudes But still lots of PT teams there, so 3 certainly ok) but then put it in at the correct time.. .overlap with LBL.

[Alkworld]

We are actually very close to that

Agree. I just noticed that Trentino was really underrated after seeing the start list.

You say some exceptions, like the Tour of Beijing only at 3 (Hangzhou cancelled, good). We have a few more. Down Under, Poland, Eneco join Beijing at 3 usually. Which IMO is more than ok.

Agree with those as well. All the rest I wouldn't care much, no problem with the full list of 2.HC being cat3 and all 2.1 having cat2. But this would be a philosophical discussion not belonging here.

[Robyklebt]

I somehow must have missed some anyway... can't find Austria, and if it is ridden should be 2.HC

Trentino of course should have been 3. And was for us until 2011, then it became 2... must have missed that, grr, that leso, we always have to "look on his fingers"
Turkey in at 3 from the 21st so my post was too late anyway... all ok, I was more into the philosophical general thing actually.

[Team ART]

Hey there,

just one question: is it really necessary to put the mintact at Trophee des Grimpeurs (29.04.) from km 75?

162 minutes for a cat.1-race seems to be a little bit to much.

[sylvainmeteo]

Hey there,

just one question: is it really necessary to put the mintact at Trophee des Grimpeurs (29.04.) from km 75?

162 minutes for a cat.1-race seems to be a little bit to much.

+1...