May 2011

[Robyklebt]

Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine.

Combined with some Manghanist "the designer have advantages"
Combined with complete ignorance.

Better like that?

Fact remains, for the Giro with a minimum of effort most infos are availabe.

You can't go check for that on your own? Why the fuck should anybody care? It's there, go look for it or shut up.

[claw]

Whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine.

Combined with some Manghanist "the designer have advantages"
Combined with complete ignorance.

Better like that?

Fact remains, for the Giro with a minimum of effort most infos are availabe.

You can't go check for that on your own? Why the fuck should anybody care? It's there, go look for it or shut up.

so i am the ignorant, if you just insult me for a simple note about a "problem" much others have, too oO (already solved by the way, got what i needed..)
i am the ignorant cause you are unable to except any other opinion than yours, no matter whos right
could have given a normal answer, but no, better call me stupid (not really clever anyway, cause its simply wrong)
i am the manghanist cause you have a bad day or what to fuck ever...
maybe you should go to kill some time with your wife(cause you are a better guy than mangahn, arent you?) instead of wasting the whole day on the giro-page, could help to get better mood

whatever.. so long

[Luna]

Whoever considers this or that race important for his team gathers information about it way before the season change. When were the Giro profile online? Not only 2 days ago. Check one stage every day is easily to integrate into the time of the first part of a race for example.

Why should anybody show the profiles before season change after all? It's just a nice service, that's not really necessary. We should stop that, before everybody gets so used to it that it becomes a demand. Would give the drawers more time for their work by the way.

[Robyklebt]

Hihihi

The accept no other opinions thing, again.

What does accept another opinion mean? Can you actually define that? Just so I know what I have to do in the future

Or why don't you just accept the fact that my opinion is right in this case. Once again, btw.

It is easy to read the Giro profiles, the info is very precise, once it's online.
You were either too stupid or to lazy to try it.
You were too stupid to be able to manage a sensible answer to my answer.

In case you are wondering:

THIS is pure stupidity

this way, its only a big advantage for the guys creating races theirselves
this way, its only a big advantage for the guys creating races theirselves

Plus Mangahnism too of course

sure its no problem for you, taking googlemaps, t4b or whatever and without much work you know, how the rsf-profile will be round about
but for others, it is

This is not much better.. so you actually think it takes just a few minutes to check things on google maps (google earth if anything), t4b (please, not the Giro...) etc then I know... how funny... try designing a real race then tell me how fast it goes to design a race. So until the save you assholishness for your wife, girlfriend or whatever you have. News for you... look at the Giro page in a year when the RSF profiles are not ready... instead of whining and whining and whining about the disadvantages you have because Aux is not designing fast enough for your taste.

[olmania]

28th of May:

[auxilium torino]

I had a little hope to ride the Giro this year, but as usual, i cannot, like last year...
thanks for the choise of the time

[Hansa]

One question th money at the end of the grio is it multiplicatet with the stages (21) or with the days (23) because in the points/prices is written that it is multiplicated with the days

[Hansa]

I had a little hope to ride the Giro this year, but as usual, i cannot, like last year...
thanks for the choise of the time

which time you can ride?

[auxilium torino]

I say that more time.
18 20 22 are too next, you give chance ever at the same players to choise if want race early or late, but the other players have really no much choise...10 or 15...this is not fair, but maybe this is the reason of the game.
you want more players,from spain, italy, england and portugal but he time of the race are only direct to the german players

[auxilium torino]

i speak with more italian team, and 50% of them plaing no more, while have no time...
change the mentality, 10 to 22 are good in gemany, other land have other lifestyle

[olmania]

I've found the profiles of this minor tour really interesting for a parallel Div5-6 race at the end of May.
If you put only few (3, or 4max) for the main tours, and 2 or 3 times for this one, only for low divisions, could be interesting.
The stages are short, with a lot of flat. I think this should be an interesting tour for them, Div 5-6.
You maybe can make a promotion, only 4-5points for this tour (or FREE, haha), to attract them on it if they have no licence. Before summer and a lot of free time, should be good to hang some new managers to RSF

Anyway, if it's not possible, because I know the calendar is really busy, keep it for later, even for this winter, could be good. But my preference is for Div 5-6, no CLM, "open race" because generally no big teams in these groups (in comparison, for div 1-4, this tour will be really boring !)

[olmania]

28th of May, same day of Plumelec, put you can put it the 27th, because I've not found the profils of Tallinn GP.



2x5%. in reality the 2 hills are shorter (650 and 800m, but steeper, 6-7% of average with a 9-10% portion during 300m for the 4cat, adapted to 5%), should be enough to sieb many sprinter with the repetition of the hills. This is hilly IMO.

[olmania]

and the 29th, Rogaland:



Races for the 27-28-29th of May designed, 3 hilly races for a good week-end for the teams not riding the Giro.


ps: I can design Rhone Alpes Isere Tour, but this is a really local tour (even if the profiles are great), and the dates are 12-15may

[skull]

i think the lead designer should be allowed to define one giro-start-time

[auxilium torino]

27 may:Tallinn-Tartu Grand Prix 2011

[olmania]

Great if you've found the profile. So, what we can do is:
26th: Tartu GP
27th: Talinn - Tartu
28th: Plumelec
29th: Rogaland

[auxilium torino]

21 may:Jurmala GP UCI 1.2

[lesossies]

i speak with more italian team, and 50% of them plaing no more, while have no time...
change the mentality, 10 to 22 are good in gemany, other land have other lifestyle

I find it a little bit unfair.
I have specially asked for a few days what the italian players mean about the Giro times.
And for 2 or 3 days I asked you which times you´ll prefer.
I got no answer.

Second problem :Only 6 italian teams, you included, have a licence and can ride the GTs.
And I dont know how much of these 6 teams would ride at 23h if they dont write it in the forum or by PN.

Sorry
You really made a big job and I am not very happy about the solution.

I think, we can test to ride the TOUR at 23h, it´s maybe easier in July.

And If it works well, we´ll see for the Vuelta.

[olmania]

You can argue about the lifestyle, others (Roby, I ...) can argue about the jet lag ! I think there is no perfect solution. But, this is a good thing to have a wide difference between the 1st time in the morning, and in the evening.

[auxilium torino]

i'm from idea that GT must be Required for a first division team, and maybe for second division too...
but this is another discussion...i think that 18-20 and 22 are too next
23 hour is for me better, you give more players a chance to ride

i say this on 26 April

[auxilium torino]

why not 6 times for the GT this year?
i think we have more players, and will be intresting 6 times...
and i think, like roby , that a GT at 23 o'clock is a very good idea!

ever 26 April, on 10 o'clock

[auxilium torino]

You can argue about the lifestyle, others (Roby, I ...) can argue about the jet lag ! I think there is no perfect solution. But, this is a good thing to have a wide difference between the 1st time in the morning, and in the evening.

naturally a wide difference is better
now more team can choised if want to ride on 18, 20 or 22, other team have no chance
THIS IS UNFAIR!

[auxilium torino]

Omloop der Kempen UCI 1.2

[Pirkio]

So can we have giro to h 23? saturday i come back home to 22,45 so for me is too better play at 23,00 tours (don't know if i will ride the giro but howewer all the tours i prefere h 23 to h 22)

[lesossies]

We could try 8h or 24h with the risk that only a few teams start at this time.