March 2026

[Falcor CC]

If no one has done it yet, I could have a whack at Paris Nice.

[Nomorelulz]

Stage 3 is 221km on the website and it also says about the final climb:

A fast finale gradually uphill over the final 15 km leads to the finishing straight (around 3%).

Final kilometers
The closing kilometres are flat and virtually straight. After entering Magliano de’ Marsi, the road drags slightly uphill (around 2%) to the finishing straight on tarmac.


--> I think that needs to be reviewed Taka


Stage 4 also on the website is 213km and the last climb on la flamme rogue says: 1.5 Km @ 8.5%, in c4f its 3-8 right now (maybe thats right though? trying to get more into designing).

[cataracs]

Stage 3 is 221km on the website and it also says about the final climb:

A fast finale gradually uphill over the final 15 km leads to the finishing straight (around 3%).

Final kilometers
The closing kilometres are flat and virtually straight. After entering Magliano de’ Marsi, the road drags slightly uphill (around 2%) to the finishing straight on tarmac.


--> I think that needs to be reviewed Taka


Stage 4 also on the website is 213km and the last climb on la flamme rogue says: 1.5 Km @ 8.5%, in c4f its 3-8 right now (maybe thats right though? trying to get more into designing).

Yes that's not the final version, still need to review the gpms and the little details they changed.BuT the % of the hills should stay as it is for the most part.

[Falcor CC]

Part 1 for Paris-Nice:




Recreated the gpx files based on the videos from their page (https://www.paris-nice.fr/en/stage-1 --> map) in Strava and went from there. Any feedback is welcome. Taka will review the names for the stages . NML will be designing stage 6 under my supervision!

[Robyklebt]

Use the Tirreno official site too! There the last km goes up 22 meters. Last 750 meters are at 2.5%, (actually probably a bit more if the altitude numbers are correct) so 2% or 3% for the last km seems better.

On stage 4 "dettaglio salite" has the Valico delle Campanelle. No km at 6% to be found there. And "ultimi chilometri" has the last climb in as well, look at it!

Falcor:
direct linking of the profiles is easier than what you did.

Btw, still think only 4 editions TA-PN would be better, but since I seem to be the only one.... just thought I mention it once again.

[flockmastoR]

I support the "only 4 editions TA-PN" proposal

[Hoefs Cycling Team]

Then you also have to adjust the times. In my opinion: the preview is good.
So just like this moment: 5 groups.

[Hansa]

I absolutely dont support the 4 edition proposal unless you cut morning or afternoon. Evening deserves the 3 editions and its a good test for the numbers we get looking at the coming GTs.

[Radunion]

I think we had the numbers for 5 parallel tours last year, so there is no reason not to ride them this year. With last year's participation, it should be clear that the 5th edition goes to TA.

[Berlin Marks]

And I don’t see any sense to change T-A from 8 to 10. only because two teams (falcor and poke who I never seen in morning fields in tours) are saying these are not their favorite time. The past showed us pretty good participation at 8 am (look at uae atm)

[flockmastoR]

And I don’t see any sense to change T-A from 8 to 10. only because two teams (falcor and poke who I never seen in morning fields in tours) are saying these are not their favorite time. The past showed us pretty good participation at 8 am (look at uae atm)

Why is your opinion more worth than those opinions? Maybe you would see them there with more 9h or 10h races? And you oversaw my opinion supporting them, or maybe you did it on purpose.

You prefer to keep it at 8h so maybe just stay with this and don't down judge other people's opinions. In the end it is the decision of Gip if he sees enough arguments to change it.

[flockmastoR]

Apart from the loud voices in the forum. The poll also supports that 9h and 10h are much more favored than 8h. 8h has still very good support which explains that the fields there are good. So from my point of view establishing it as a 3rd time next to the main times (9h, 10h) is very well supported. But my impression is, that 8h is a bit too much offered for that.

[Falcor CC]

With 14h available that is my prefered time. But if there is only 1 PN slot during "work hours", I would much rather have it at 10h than 8h, since 8h is outside my (and others) work hours... in general 10h tours would attract me to switch to the morning a lot of times. That being said I think the teams that usually in the morning should get a bigger say in it, since I'm only a morning team if there's no afternoon alternative

[drei.zehn]

And I don’t see any sense to change T-A from 8 to 10. only because two teams (falcor and poke who I never seen in morning fields in tours) are saying these are not their favorite time. The past showed us pretty good participation at 8 am (look at uae atm)

Glad that I don’t have to say it ;D

[flockmastoR]

And I don’t see any sense to change T-A from 8 to 10. only because two teams (falcor and poke who I never seen in morning fields in tours) are saying these are not their favorite time. The past showed us pretty good participation at 8 am (look at uae atm)

Glad that I don’t have to say it ;D

If we want to add personal remarks about the people demanding something: 13 will start no matter time is offered (8, 9, 10) so his opinion is not relevant as well.

[drei.zehn]

And I don’t see any sense to change T-A from 8 to 10. only because two teams (falcor and poke who I never seen in morning fields in tours) are saying these are not their favorite time. The past showed us pretty good participation at 8 am (look at uae atm)

Glad that I don’t have to say it ;D

If we want to add personal remarks about the people demanding something: 13 will start no matter time is offered (8, 9, 10) so his opinion is not relevant as well.

Maybe I should start rooting for 10h to get the 8h as long as AAD has something to say

[flockmastoR]

And I don’t see any sense to change T-A from 8 to 10. only because two teams (falcor and poke who I never seen in morning fields in tours) are saying these are not their favorite time. The past showed us pretty good participation at 8 am (look at uae atm)

Glad that I don’t have to say it ;D

If we want to add personal remarks about the people demanding something: 13 will start no matter time is offered (8, 9, 10) so his opinion is not relevant as well.

Maybe I should start rooting for 10h to get the 8h as long as AAD has something to say

I don't have any more say in the calendar planning than you do. But maybe we can now agree that everyone's opinions are fundamentally equal and should be taken seriously as a matter of principle.

[drei.zehn]

Glad that I don’t have to say it ;D

If we want to add personal remarks about the people demanding something: 13 will start no matter time is offered (8, 9, 10) so his opinion is not relevant as well.

Maybe I should start rooting for 10h to get the 8h as long as AAD has something to say

I don't have any more say in the calendar planning than you do. But maybe we can now agree that everyone's opinions are fundamentally equal and should be taken seriously as a matter of principle.

Sure. So seriously. Your poll showed that 8h is also quite popular and I don’t see the too much argument. Think it finally getting some spots

[Falcor CC]

Falcor:
direct linking of the profiles is easier than what you did.

Since I still can't figure out how to do this I have to stick to my inferior method. Here are stages 4,5,7,8:





One additional question; stages 4 and 7 are labeled "Flat. Uphill finale" on the PN website. As the name suggests, they are pretty much flat until the final climb. I have given those mountain stage labels now, but maybe it should all be hilly? Any feedback welcome! Once NML uploads stage 6 and review is done I think the tour should be finished.

Thanks!

[Gipfelstuermer]

Since I still can't figure out how to do this I have to stick to my inferior method. Here are stages 4,5,7,8:

You put:

[img ]LINK[/img ] (without any blanks)

With the link being:
"https://cycling4freaks.de/img/profiles/PROFILENAME.png"

One additional question; stages 4 and 7 are labeled "Flat. Uphill finale" on the PN website. As the name suggests, they are pretty much flat until the final climb. I have given those mountain stage labels now, but maybe it should all be hilly? Any feedback welcome! Once NML uploads stage 6 and review is done I think the tour should be finished.
Thanks!

Found the rules: https://storage-aso.lequipe.fr/ASO/cycl ... ent-uk.pdf

[Nomorelulz]

The masterstage is done now! PN Stage 6 is also designed (and correctly linked here!) please review it as I am not that experienced. I'm open for feedback!

[Hansa]

Category 3 climbs: 3 – 2 – 1 points to the first
three riders.
- Category 2 climbs: 5 – 3 – 2 – 1 points to the first
four riders.
- Category 1 climbs: 10 – 5 – 3 – 2 – 1 points to the
first five riders.

So with these given mountain points we could bump down every gpm by 1, so cat 1 in real is cat 1 in rsf.

For the sprintpoints on stage ends i would go with flat and mountain stages that doesnt fit fully but the others also doesnt fit as we dont have 25 points for stage winners.

[Bugatti]

Based on this, I would suggest

P-N 14-20
T-A 10-18-22

Is that the final decision?
Because ingame says P-N 18h/22h.

I would like to ride P-N, but I can only do so in the morning or early afternoon(starttime till 15h).