June 2020

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Re: June 2020

Post by el Galactico » Mon May 18, 2020 8:06 am

I just give you my personal opinion (yes, maybe I get old) + the things you hear generally in the late hour races since I came back. There is lots of times people complaining about being tired.

10-14-18-20-22 sounds like a very good proposal to me if we want to go for 5 editions. I like that idea.
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Re: June 2020

Post by Bear » Mon May 18, 2020 11:16 am

I am also pro 22:00 because I am one of the tired ones.

5 or 4 editions probably both ok.

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Re: June 2020

Post by CircleCycle » Wed May 20, 2020 10:30 pm

pro 5 times and pro 22h last Edition @LeTour
Austria in calendar, but it is cancelled and I doubt there are profiles available (I did not check if they published something, but usually they don't do that too early). Are there alternatives?
What are stages 1-3 of Belgium like?

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Re: June 2020

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 21, 2020 5:58 pm

Looks like 4 editions, 10-14-19-22 to me. More for 5 than 4 here, but the proposal sent to Luques had both 5 ed. and 4 ed., He chose 4, so that counts too, plus many seem in the don't care camp anyway. As am I...

Hansa for TdS-Dauphiné 3, but the only one who said something, looks like 4 then.


Good point about Austria by CC.

If no profiles available for 2020=> Sibiu. Which has the advantage of still being planned actually. But has another problem 02.07.-05.07. So finishes on the same day as Pologne was supposed to start, 05.07. (this is now 05.08, but as we've established around 900 times by now we keep following the originally planned calendar) So? Sibiu one day early? No Sibiu?

If Sibiu not available or not good=Austria 19 (Austria finishes before Pologne start, so that would be no problem)
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Re: June 2020

Post by gaurain rx » Sat May 23, 2020 1:09 pm

Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.

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Re: June 2020

Post by Alkworld » Wed May 27, 2020 7:13 am

The morning Tour is currently planned at 10am. My personal preference would be 9am as it's a GT with often long stages. 9am usually causes less overlaps with lunch time and for some less interference from work ;) Any other opinions?

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Re: June 2020

Post by olmania » Wed May 27, 2020 8:33 am

Alkworld wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:13 am
The morning Tour is currently planned at 10am. My personal preference would be 9am as it's a GT with often long stages. 9am usually causes less overlaps with lunch time and for some less interference from work ;) Any other opinions?
It's true that 9am worked quite well for Giro.
Chances that I can ride TDF are very low, but I think many of the 9am Giro teams would be interested in a 9am TDF time too (as mentionned in race chat this morning).

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Re: June 2020

Post by Hanse » Thu May 28, 2020 2:10 pm

When does roby start updloading?
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Re: June 2020

Post by Robyklebt » Thu May 28, 2020 4:48 pm

Waiting for Luques and the PDF.....
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Re: June 2020

Post by Pokemon Club » Thu May 28, 2020 7:09 pm

Maybe it can be nice to postponed Mont Ventoux Challenge. Originally the day after Dauphine as the place is not far. But now in competition with Dauphine and TdS as we postponed Dauphine

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Re: June 2020

Post by Robyklebt » Fri May 29, 2020 3:14 pm

Luques has updated the PDF.

reload it if it shows you the old one.

TdF 9-14-19-22

No Austria, Sibiu instead, since that is ridden in reality. But postponed one day, 1-4 instead of 2-5. Since on the fifth Poland starts. Hm, actually we could postpone Poland, since that in reality isn't ridden then anymore, and ride Sibiu on the real dates, but ok, that's July.

I regard this as final.
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Re: June 2020

Post by olmania » Sat May 30, 2020 9:27 am

gaurain rx wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 1:09 pm
Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.
Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage :roll:

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Re: June 2020

Post by Hanse » Sat May 30, 2020 10:10 am

olmania wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 9:27 am
gaurain rx wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 1:09 pm
Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.
Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage :roll:
yes please Change that we dont want 1.5hours flat races^^
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Re: June 2020

Post by gaurain rx » Sat May 30, 2020 10:29 am

olmania wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 9:27 am
gaurain rx wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 1:09 pm
Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.
Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage :roll:
Oh yeah, my mistake, 15-10 km Mintakt more than enough there :-)

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Re: June 2020

Post by Novostil » Mon Jun 01, 2020 12:49 pm

Hi friends,

I built 1990 Euskal Bizikleta in La Flamme Rouge. If you want, you'll add in RSF calendar.

https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/348505

I can't apply gpx in RSF race editor, password error.

Here info of this race :

http://www.sitiodeciclismo.net/voorloop ... oopid=9080

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euskal_Bizikleta

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Re: June 2020

Post by starwars » Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:59 pm

For me the 9h TdF sounds better than the 10h TdF!

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Re: June 2020

Post by olmania » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:17 pm

gaurain rx wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 10:29 am
olmania wrote:
Sat May 30, 2020 9:27 am
gaurain rx wrote:
Sat May 23, 2020 1:09 pm
Belgium Tour done... Just have to see if I don't get better infos about GPM's (but they were no GPM in the past editions) and IS in the roadbooks but I don't think I will.
Thanks !
What do you think about shortening the mintackt of stage 2 ? 130min for a 160kms long flat stage :roll:
Oh yeah, my mistake, 15-10 km Mintakt more than enough there :-)
I guess you made the change ? Maybe we need the upload now :) ?
Thanks !

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Re: June 2020

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:57 pm

Regarding TDF:

I added 1 IS per stage now, as ASO still has not uploaded IS and GPM category. More or less randomly. Most in the middle of the stage, some more at the beginning, some more at the end.

And we are only 3 weeks away from the start. So if everyone is fine with it, I think we can start uploading TDF.
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Re: June 2020

Post by Hanse » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:10 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:57 pm
Regarding TDF:

I added 1 IS per stage now, as ASO still has not uploaded IS and GPM category. More or less randomly. Most in the middle of the stage, some more at the beginning, some more at the end.

And we are only 3 weeks away from the start. So if everyone is fine with it, I think we can start uploading TDF.
At moubtain stages i think the IS should be before the first mountain most of the time because it should be possible for sprinters.
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Re: June 2020

Post by Rasmussen » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:19 pm

Hanse wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:10 pm
Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 4:57 pm
Regarding TDF:

I added 1 IS per stage now, as ASO still has not uploaded IS and GPM category. More or less randomly. Most in the middle of the stage, some more at the beginning, some more at the end.

And we are only 3 weeks away from the start. So if everyone is fine with it, I think we can start uploading TDF.
At moubtain stages i think the IS should be before the first mountain most of the time because it should be possible for sprinters.
Good point. Don't like the Intermediate Sprint before the last climb on a mountain stage, that makes it more likely for a climber to win the green jersey.

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Re: June 2020

Post by Gipfelstuermer » Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:48 pm

Mh, maybe it's not so much about what we like, but what is realistic for a TDF?

Let's look at last year's mountain stages:
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 12: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 14: IS after first sieb
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 19: IS after first sieb
Stage 20: IS before first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
3x after first sieb


Now this year my random IS:
Stage 2: IS after first sieb
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 8: IS after first sieb
Stage 14: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 16: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 17: IS before first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
4x after first sieb


I like discussing the things, and some of the stages actually designed by OL, so O.K. for me if he wants to put IS somewhere else... but overall looks realistic to me.
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Re: June 2020

Post by olmania » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:49 pm

Gipfelstuermer wrote:
Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:48 pm
Mh, maybe it's not so much about what we like, but what is realistic for a TDF?

Let's look at last year's mountain stages:
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 12: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 14: IS after first sieb
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 19: IS after first sieb
Stage 20: IS before first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
3x after first sieb


Now this year my random IS:
Stage 2: IS after first sieb
Stage 6: IS before first sieb
Stage 8: IS after first sieb
Stage 14: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 15: IS after first sieb
Stage 16: IS after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
Stage 17: IS before first sieb
Stage 18: IS after first sieb

2x before first sieb
2x after first sieb (but before first large mountain)
4x after first sieb


I like discussing the things, and some of the stages actually designed by OL, so O.K. for me if he wants to put IS somewhere else... but overall looks realistic to me.

Looks generally ok to me.
Anyway, we can't get it perfect this year due to the lack of info. so we've to take the responsability of putting it somewhere. the most important is that it looks ok, has a balance/meaning according to the general design, and that everyone can see early enough.

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