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March 2019

Post by luques » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:27 pm

MARCH 2019

http://www.cycling4freaks.com/radsport/march2019.pdf


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Re: March 2019

Post by luques » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:33 pm

So, Tirreno and Nice 4 + 4, no more. 24h goes only if the tour or classic is shorter than 2 hours otherwise the race breaks.

Catalunya 4 editions as well, while Bartali can be in or out I don't see reason to increase Catalunya editions considering classics in parallel.

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Re: March 2019

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:38 pm

17-19 only getting one of the 3 cat 4 tours isn't good.
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Re: March 2019

Post by gaurain rx » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:21 am

All those flemish classics to be checked :-)

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Re: March 2019

Post by Robyklebt » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:30 pm

I will do Tirreno Adriatico.
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Re: March 2019

Post by Robyklebt » Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:02 pm

Another thing about the calendar.
We're having pretty horrible participation on the weekends lately. Probably better to go down to 4 editions for Gent Wevelgem, since there is Catalunya/Coppy&Bartali parallel. Then Harelbeke maybe too, although it's on a friday, there's stil the same 6 stage race editions parallel.
Omloop Het Nieuwsblad... .UAE 3 editions, don't know but with the weekend weakness (that might disappear with high cats, but not sure at all) maybe too?
And then for some kind of fairness (although not really) STrade Bianche down to 4 as well?
MSR on the other hand 5 seems ok.
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Re: March 2019

Post by Pokemon Club » Sun Feb 17, 2019 6:27 pm

btw Coppi & Bartali is really needed ?

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Re: March 2019

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:35 pm

Stage 1-5 done, will finish 6+7 later.
GPM, there seem to be 2 categories, put 3+2, will check later if I find a rule book where it's written how many points are given, then maybe adapt.


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Re: March 2019

Post by CircleCycle » Mon Feb 18, 2019 2:46 pm

A question about times. Is it possible to have Strade Bianchi at 10am (instead of 9am) and a morning edition of Tirreno-Adriatico too?

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Re: March 2019

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:22 pm

Strade Bianche at 10 should be no problem.
Tirreno in the morning a problem. With only 4 times per cat 4 tour in March, not all 5 times can have each tour.
Last year it was the afternoon and the late evening that missed out on 1. And then the morning and early afternoon that missed out in June on Dauphiné/TdS. So this year the other way around, Morning only 1 between PN and TA. And since PN was much more popular in the morning a year ago... PN it is.
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Re: March 2019

Post by Mangahn » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:14 pm

I see your point, Roby.

But I´ve got the feeling that 18-23 got (to) much times there. (Its my maximum range). For me it would be okay to give up one of those for the morning who might have it harder to get good times.

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At february the range from 18-23 (better 22) is terrible right now with Algarve and del Sol. Only 1 (!) time. Instead of the 4 times for march.

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Re: March 2019

Post by Robyklebt » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:03 pm

February times suck anyway....

Your range 18-23 is of course huge, not many people have that range I would guess. And that makes it a bit pointless, to have that as a group.

But look at February again.
Morning, 3 tours so far:
9h Valencia, 11
10h Colombia, 8 11h Oman parallel. Oman 3

So as soon as there is something parallel the numbers for at least one tour go down. In this case 11h maybe didn't help, but as a stand alone time with nothing parallel actually 11h usually doesn't do badly.

Evening, I'll keep your huge 18-23 thing, even if I think splitting that into 2 blocks (well, 3 really) is more sensible.
19h Valencia 9 20h Besseges 10 22 Valencia 10 23h Besseges 8
20h Colombia 11 22h Provence 7 18h Oman 6 21h Oman 10

All numbers from the calendar thing, they sometimes are wrong, so might be off..

So: that huge 18-23 slot had good participation for Valenca-Besseges. Min 8, max 10.
A bit less for Colombia-Provence-Oman, but still ok, minimum 6. Compare that to the morning that went down to 3.
Just doesn't make sense IMO to take 1 edition away from that time to give it to the morning, who then will have at least one tour with a small group.
And it's not as if the morning then in that period would get no tour. it still has a stage race, and Tirreno and PN are usually quite similar, some sprint, some mountain, Tirreno with TTT and short TT, PN only with a TT, often hilly. You can't ride one, the other for most teams is a good alternative.
Basically it's "share the pain" of less editions, the only time that doesn't have to share (or to a much lesser degree) IMO should be 20-22, they usually have the numbers even when there's 2 tours parallel. Morning, afternoon, early evening, late evening... they should share.
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