cycling4freaks.com

19H Vuelta:

sa 2.9.
fr. 8.9
sa 9.9
so 10.9.

would need sitters fo these days have unexpectedly other thing to do.
if you can on any of these dates feel free to contact me

Hansa starting here.

Way to expensive team by far to bad.

so lets see what we can do^^

In the Ex riders stats all riders that retired without a team for Div (1-5) have empty stats. riders that retired in Div (1-4) have stats

rdiers that retired at age 40 have the same issue

is that a regular problem anyway? if not we maybe shouldnt change anything by the rule just by the wording maybe.

The exception that can be modified IMO is the - if ≥11 riders from ≥4 teams escape, or in order to avoid very stupid actions (not just theoretically, Schartner showed us what is still allowed but IMO shouldn't) having 8 riders of one team, 1 rider of 3 more teams each. We could do that for example ...

But there rsf limits us in the Km per km basis. Big attacks happen in real races because people attack and then more people attack behind the first escapes often also on the same km (that is kind of following in rsf) and that forms big groups, taking away that exception will fully get away these cha...

and will tell you why your answers are pointless. one team with a teamattack gets 100.000 fine or something? with this 9+9 guys train sprint they earned much more money, or not? but FPC gave a hfine 10.000 each? they earned much more money through this sprint? what would you want to say FPC? you ar...

No rules in Sprint. So no need to change anything. Then you can start with Attack out of Tempo and so on. The Rules are very clear and not to interpretate. But in the case, of the 50k fine. The Reason for the less fine is, no one say it in the racechat. So if you going to the bank, there is a sign,...

Fixing rule 3 sound rather complicated for me if i attack with 2 guys and have 2 others hanging, how gets decides which ones will escape then and which ones not?^^

This is not a discussion about trick sprint, please open a seperate topic for this so the real discussion doesnt get lost.

Ich beziehe mich auf folgenden Fall: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/RSFForum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9431 Hier ist halt nichts wirklich nachweisbar und das macht die Sache schwierig. Meiner Meinung nach war das ein klarer Regelverstoß mit großen Auswirkungen, da es den Rennverlauf und das Ergbnis auch d...

The interesting comparison of course is this one: http://www.radsportfreaks.de/RSFForum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=9514&p=117547#p117547 Difference is: -In the race 2 of us told Gipfel that it wasn't a team attack, when we were thinking about it. In the free case, nobody even realized it. - Rule 1 vs rul...

Due to some missunderstandings with the Fairplay rules in multiple different races, and one involving multiple very experienced manager (22h Vuelta a Burgos Et.3) were they identified a Team attack that wasnt and all involved teams agreed that it was. I started to question if the Fairplay rules are ...

Changing of GPMS and IS:

Possibility of Bonus seconds for GPMS

2 different Kind of IS points and bonis individually (Example for Vuelta: IS with Bonification + IS without Bonifications)

I am wondering a little bit. Three guys with exactly the same offence at even the same time, two guys get a 100000 Fine, one get 50000 Fine. Why? its written in the Decision just posted by Gipfel 2 were informed during the race about their team attack and did not take any action to solve the proble...

Soo according to the regelement found here at the bottom: https://www.lavuelta.es/en/the-race/sporting-stakes stage 4 should be flat stage 11 should be mountain stage 12 should be hilly stage 20 should be mountain Points for the differen categorizations and the IS: Vuelta Sprint points.png Vuelta IS...

ye as I said I'm fine with your decision, but pls rewrite the rules, because there's a conflict between rule number 1 and 3 there is no conflict between these rules. rule 1 is for attacking with 3 or more and rule 3 is for attacking+following with a combination of 3 or more riders. should be stated...

Let's Go wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:28 pm

ye as I said I'm fine with your decision, but pls rewrite the rules, because there's a conflict between rule number 1 and 3

there is no conflict between these rules. rule 1 is for attacking with 3 or more and rule 3 is for attacking+following with a combination of 3 or more riders.

ProTour-Team wrote: ↑

Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:45 am

but nice to see that a teamattack by 1km without any impact is so interesting for some teams

the no impact wasnt clear for anyone who hasnt seen the race, thats why i asked to clarifiy that really helps.

so the info that 2 fresh and a weak Zündt really helps, so most likely to make it legal he just attacks with the 2 fresh most liekely,

but there is still the option he attack with 1 + Zündt to make it legal that would change the outcome thats why i was asking.

because i cant see the race anymore can anyone explain how it didnt have implications on the outcome?

if i check it right if free only attaacks with 2 instead of 3 he its possiblle that Ansach is then with him and can fight for stage/p2 at least?

chosing a time to ride maybe?

not sure if the would motivate many people but i would design some races just to be able to ride at 20h more often ^^